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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Tue 12 Jul 2022
National Security Bill (Third sitting)

"Does my hon. Friend not agree that “other recordings” would include a sketch?..."
Sally-Ann Hart - View Speech

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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Tue 12 Jul 2022
National Security Bill (Fourth sitting)

"The hon. Gentleman is talking about acts in preparation for an offence. A person engaged in preparing for an act of this type, even if they fail, could still be prosecuted, because they have been preparing for something. Who assesses material assistance? It could be a very small thing, but …..."
Sally-Ann Hart - View Speech

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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Tue 12 Jul 2022
National Security Bill (Fourth sitting)

"Clause 13 on foreign interference refers to a person committing an offence

“if…the person engages in conduct intending that the conduct, or a course of conduct of which it forms part”

so that would include preparatory conduct, because it is a course, so the conduct goes from beginning to end. …..."
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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Thu 07 Jul 2022
National Security Bill (First sitting)

"Q You mentioned that restrictions to legal aid could be counterproductive and could harm rehabilitation efforts. Can you please expand on that?

Jonathan Hall: Not all terrorists are cold, calculating, ruthless killers who will go and commit terrorist acts whatever their circumstances. They may exist, but there are also …..."
Sally-Ann Hart - View Speech

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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Thu 07 Jul 2022
National Security Bill (First sitting)

"Q I want to pick up on the foreign interference point in clause 13 of the Bill:

“A person commits an offence if…the person engages in conduct intending that the conduct, or a course of conduct…will have”

a negative “effect” on the UK for or on behalf of the …..."
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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Thu 07 Jul 2022
National Security Bill (First sitting)

"So you do not think that it should be included in clause 13?

Professor Sir David Omand: No, I had not concluded that...."
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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Thu 07 Jul 2022
National Security Bill (First sitting)

"Sir Alex?

Sir Alex Younger: I do not have anything to add to that...."
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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Thu 07 Jul 2022
National Security Bill (First sitting)

"Q We heard from the previous witnesses about the challenges of online harm—sabotage and dis, mis and malinformation—and the Bill seeks to modernise the espionage regime to meet the challenge of the digital age. Do you think it will achieve that aim and where are the gaps, if any?

…..."
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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Thu 07 Jul 2022
National Security Bill (Second sitting)

"Q I have two questions, if there is time. First, Mr Miller, you mentioned people who are employed online and you said that you do not think those people have any idea who is employing them. Clauses 13 and 24 state that

“a person commits an offence if…the person …..."
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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Thu 07 Jul 2022
National Security Bill (Second sitting)

"Q On that point and the concerns you mentioned earlier about enforcement and deployment, and that the Bill is not enough alone, what would you propose? Will you expand on that point?

Carl Miller: Sure. First, we need to change the intelligence picture slightly. We should integrate SOCMINT—social media …..."
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