Oral Answers to Questions Debate

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Department: Ministry of Defence

Oral Answers to Questions

Samantha Dixon Excerpts
Monday 13th March 2023

(1 year, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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Chris Elmore Portrait Chris Elmore (Ogmore) (Lab)
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2. What steps he is taking to ensure that the UK meets its obligations to NATO.

Samantha Dixon Portrait Samantha Dixon (City of Chester) (Lab)
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12. What steps he is taking to ensure that the UK meets its obligations to NATO.

James Heappey Portrait The Minister for Armed Forces (James Heappey)
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Our commitment to NATO and Euro-Atlantic security is unconditional. In response to Russia’s illegal war in Ukraine, we have enhanced our force posture in Estonia and have sent warships and fighter aircraft to south-east Europe and the Mediterranean. We contribute to every NATO mission and declare the UK’s nuclear deterrent to NATO. The UK is committed to remaining NATO’s leading European ally.

James Heappey Portrait James Heappey
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The hon. Gentleman makes a sensible point. The Select Committee’s report is being read at the moment and will be responded to as would be expected. There is an important distinction to make: only a small proportion of the equipment and stockpiles that we are providing to the Ukrainians come from the current active inventory and stockpiles of the UK military. A very large proportion of the ammunition is at or slightly beyond the date by which we would normally seek to dispose of it, and an even larger proportion of it—the majority—is sourced or manufactured from stockpiles or manufacturing capabilities overseas.

Samantha Dixon Portrait Samantha Dixon
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Notwithstanding the Secretary of State’s earlier unwillingness to play a numbers game, the reality is that Ministers plan to cut the size of the Army to 73,000 by 2025, at a time that NATO has agreed to increase its high readiness forces to 300,000. Will the updated integrated review halt cuts to Army numbers?

James Heappey Portrait James Heappey
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My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State has been clear all along that if the facts change, so will our approach to force structure. It is important to note that force size and readiness are not necessarily directly connected. A future force may require fewer people because of automation and artificial intelligence, or it may not. We are studying the lessons from Ukraine carefully. We came to a clear judgment in the last IR. As we work towards the publication of a refresh of the defence Command Paper, we will look at whether the assumptions of the last Command Paper are still sound.