Sudan: Humanitarian Situation

Debate between Seamus Logan and Nusrat Ghani
Monday 15th December 2025

(1 day, 21 hours ago)

Commons Chamber
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Seamus Logan Portrait Seamus Logan
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On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker.

Nusrat Ghani Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Ms Nusrat Ghani)
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Is the point of order really relevant?

Seamus Logan Portrait Seamus Logan
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It is. In his response to my urgent question, the Minister referred to my presence or otherwise in the Chamber during a previous debate. I want the Minister to be aware, and the record to show, that members of my extended family are Sudanese nationals. Is it in order for the Minister to undermine the validity of my question in that way? Will he apologise?

Nusrat Ghani Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker
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We cannot prolong the debate, but the hon. Member has most definitely got his point on the record.

Devolution (Immigration) (Scotland) Bill

Debate between Seamus Logan and Nusrat Ghani
Seamus Logan Portrait Seamus Logan
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I welcome your ruling, Madam Deputy Speaker, with regard to the focus of the debate.

You are speaking about waiting list times for cancer treatment. What has that got to do with immigration? Secondly, you keep focusing on—

Nusrat Ghani Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Ms Nusrat Ghani)
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Order. I know the debate is very intense, but “you” means me. No doubt the hon. Member is not critiquing me.

Seamus Logan Portrait Seamus Logan
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I apologise, Madam Deputy Speaker. The Secretary of State is talking about health metrics. We will see about the validity of some of those health metrics for England over the next few months, but there are many other metrics in health and social care. In Scotland, we are very proud to have free prescriptions, free social care, free personal care and many more benefits. I will not list them all in the way that you do, with your litany of so-called failures, because I want to talk up Scotland—

Nusrat Ghani Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Ms Nusrat Ghani)
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Order. That is twice! “You” refers to the Chair. I think that is the end of that intervention. I call the Secretary of State.

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Seamus Logan Portrait Seamus Logan
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This might be an opportunity for the hon. Member to catch her breath. She is making a number of claims about Ukrainian women and Scottish people, but I want to go back to something she said earlier about Stranraer and Cairnryan, which is a place I am familiar with as an Irish person and a guide. I just wanted to correct the record: Stranraer port closed many, many years ago. The example that you gave is completely impossible.

Nusrat Ghani Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Ms Nusrat Ghani)
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Order. Members should not use “you”. The hon. Member was told off twice earlier for using it, and he came and apologised to the Chair. I would not have mentioned it, were I not being accurate in making clear for the record that he had been inappropriate with his language.