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Cabling

Debate between Sharon Hodgson and Ian C. Lucas
Tuesday 30th October 2012

(11 years, 6 months ago)

Westminster Hall
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Sharon Hodgson Portrait Mrs Sharon Hodgson (Washington and Sunderland West) (Lab)
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It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Caton. In August, I visited a cable factory in Washington, in my constituency, which supports more than 100 local jobs and is part of a company that employs more than 1,350 people across the UK. It produces some of the highest-quality cabling in the world—the kind of cable that is used in everything from laptops to submarines. I met Paul Atkinson, chief executive officer of the cable company Prysmian UK, to discuss the challenges facing the industry. Despite the fact that his company faces similar economic pressures to many other companies, one of his chief concerns was the issue of counterfeit substandard cabling. I was shocked to discover that the cable that we so often take for granted in our homes, hospitals, schools and even in the Palace of Westminster is largely unregulated and potentially dangerous. Some 20% of all cable in the UK is suspected of being counterfeit and therefore at risk of overheating and emitting toxic fumes.

Electrical fires are soaring in number in parallel with the increase in counterfeit cabling that is being imported into this country. As a result of improper regulation, this unsafe cable is hard to detect and is often installed by professionals who are unaware that it is counterfeit. A council in my local region recently had to reinstall all its newly fitted data cables after it detected, at the last minute, that cheap and dangerous material had been used within the cable. That came at a cost of tens of thousands of pounds, which the council had to bear.

Counterfeit cable not only poses risks to our safety, but is harming the British cable industry, which is a world leader for high-quality cables. Over the past few years, more than 30 producers of safe high-quality cable have been forced out of business at the gain of cut-throat distributors of unsafe and counterfeit cable from overseas. This export-led, globally respected domestic industry will shrink further if we do not act now. The problem of counterfeit cabling could be substantially mitigated by suitable enforcement of basic regulation for the detection of unsafe cables.

The cable industry is not asking for anything other than for the UK to catch up with global standards for regulation, in order to halt the victimisation of British manufacturers and to ensure that our schools, hospitals and homes are safe from the dangers that substandard cables can cause.

Customs and Excise statistics show that the UK has become a global target for distributors of counterfeit and substandard cabling, and it is now estimated that a fifth of all cabling in the UK is suspected to fall into that category, and therefore be potentially dangerous. To put that in perspective, the Olympic venues alone required more than 350 miles of cabling, so if they followed the national trend, that would mean that more than 70 miles of that cabling was counterfeit.

On a national scale, there is potentially hundreds of millions of miles of cable that is not only substandard but potentially life-threatening. That is backed up by the official fire statistics for 2010-11, which show that electrical distribution caused more than 4,000 fires in homes and 3,000 in other buildings.

According to statistics from the Department for Communities and Local Government, fatalities caused by faulty electrical distribution systems have tripled since 2004. The incentive to source cheap cabling has been greatly increased by the dramatic increase in the cost of copper, which now accounts for more than 90% of the total cost of the cable. Therefore, manufacturers of counterfeit cable are able to undercut quality cable by cutting down on the amount of copper they use. However, doing that leads not only to more faults, but to overheating, which dramatically increases the risk of fire. The fire itself is not the only life-threatening risk. Due to the present lack of regulation, substandard cable distributors are also free to cut costs by using cheap material that emits toxic fumes, and which falls below fire-resistant standards. If such cable is used as part of emergency lighting or fire alarm systems, which should function for up to two hours to allow people to escape safely, those systems could fail within minutes, thereby increasing the risk of casualties.

The Minister will share my deep concern that, because of a lack of any real regulation, cables in our schools, homes, and hospitals will almost certainly contain counterfeit cabling, which could lead to deadly consequences.

Ian C. Lucas Portrait Ian Lucas (Wrexham) (Lab)
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I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing this important debate. My father worked in a cabling factory in County Durham for 40 years, and Prysmian is also based in my constituency. She is emphasising a hugely important point. There have been a number of very serious fires that have led to deaths. There was one recently in Prestatyn, in north Wales. This is an urgent problem, which we need to address.

Sharon Hodgson Portrait Mrs Hodgson
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I agree, and I thank my hon. Friend for his contribution. I am so pleased that he was able to come along this morning because he is as passionate as I am about this issue.

In addition to the serious safety issues that we have been discussing, unregulated counterfeit cabling is also undermining British jobs. As I said earlier, more than 100 people are directly employed at the Prysmian factory in Washington, and even more may be employed in my hon. Friend’s constituency in Wrexham. However, high-quality cable manufacturers operating in Britain are struggling to survive because of the unfair competition from counterfeit cables. Britain’s domestic cabling industry is a world leader because of the refusal by its companies to compromise on quality and safety standards. However, that integrity and sense of responsibility to the end user has left the members of that industry under threat from cut-throat distributors of unsafe, substandard products. At a time of rising unemployment, my understanding is that the entire cable industry, which includes manufacturers as well as supply chain jobs and distributors, provides more than 150,000 private sector jobs nationally, and also helps support efforts towards an export-led recovery, with exports totalling more than £300 million. However, those jobs are constantly under threat due to the lack of protection that basic regulation would provide.

The extent of the damage that counterfeit cabling is doing to the British cable industry can be seen clearly in the rapid decline of jobs in the sector over the past 15 years. In 1995, there were 70 domestic cable manufacturing firms, providing 110,000 jobs. Now there are just three cable manufacturing firms, providing 5,000 jobs. All the other manufacturers have fallen victim to cheap and often substandard imports from abroad. By sacrificing product safety and misleading consumers, distributors of dangerous counterfeit cabling are able to undercut UK suppliers, potentially putting more of them out of business. Such manufacturers ceasing operations not only means that jobs are lost, but further increases the market share available for distributors of counterfeit and substandard products to exploit.

The problem of counterfeit cabling risking jobs and lives in Britain can be solved with relatively simple regulation and suitable enforcement. However, the issue has been largely neglected by Government, falling victim, as it has, to being caught between the responsibilities of the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills, and the DCLG. Indeed, I believe that there was some discussion last week about which Department would answer this debate today.

The British cable industry has been clear; it believes that fair competition incentivises innovation and higher standards. I do not for one moment want to stop fair competition in the cable industry, or to stop cable manufactured overseas, whether in Europe or elsewhere, from being imported and distributed in the UK. This is not about doing British manufacturers special favours, even when they employ our constituents. This is about creating a level playing field for competition, based on the fundamental point that cabling is a product that needs to be up to standard because of the potentially fatal consequences if it is not.

British manufacturers, including Prysmian, do not believe that the safety of the British public should be compromised, especially in public buildings such as schools and hospitals. In the present marketplace, however, this belief costs them competitiveness and therefore customers, who are often uneducated about the dangers of counterfeit cables. Consequently it is vital that the tide of counterfeit and dangerous cable is halted and that safety standards are enforced.

Dangerous cable could be tackled by revising legislation to incorporate four checks on the market. First, there should be quality checks on cable at ports of entry, ensuring that products coming into the country are up to the standards that we require of British-made products. Secondly, there should be a requirement that, at the very least, all cable used in public buildings in the UK is third party-certified, meaning that it has been tested and proven to be of the quality that we expect. Thirdly, cable inspection and verification should be added to the list of mandated checks performed by building inspectors, ensuring that any counterfeit product is identified as early as possible, so that it can be replaced. Fourthly and finally, there have to be consequences for those who are found to be endangering life and property knowingly by installing substandard cabling, and at the very least that should mean prosecution for those found to be doing so in public buildings. Similar measures already operate internationally, so implementing them would merely be addressing an anomaly that leaves Britain uniquely vulnerable to the kind of dangerous electrical cabling that causes deaths, casualties and damage to property, while undermining British jobs.

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Ian C. Lucas Portrait Ian Lucas
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I am grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way to me again. She has made a compelling case about the dangers of cable that is not health and safety-certified. Does she agree that it is regrettable that we sometimes have soundbites that criticise this type of regulation, whereas in fact it creates an opportunity for good manufacturers who have safe systems in the UK and the absence of such regulation penalises those good manufacturers at the expense of those that do not provide safe cables?

Sharon Hodgson Portrait Mrs Hodgson
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Yes. On that very point, I know that the Minister announced last week that he is going to tackle Europe’s “regulatory machine” and that he is committed to reducing red tape for small and medium-sized businesses. However, I hope he will agree that, as my hon. Friend just said, cabling is very different. I hope he sees that this kind of regulation for cabling would be welcomed and would definitely help British businesses, as well as reducing electrical fires and ultimately saving lives. I look forward to hearing his response to the debate.

Regional Development (North-East)

Debate between Sharon Hodgson and Ian C. Lucas
Tuesday 22nd March 2011

(13 years, 1 month ago)

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Ian C. Lucas Portrait Ian Lucas (Wrexham) (Lab)
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It is a pleasure to address colleagues under your chairmanship, Mr Leigh, for the first time, I believe. I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland (Tom Blenkinsop) on securing this debate, and hon. Members on their interesting contributions. I wish we had more time, because I am sure that more could be added to the debate. I shall not deal with each of the speeches now but will refer to them in my comments.

It is imperative that the north-east has a strong voice in Parliament. The new generation of MPs who came into Parliament in the last general election are a powerful group who have contributed hugely to the voice of that region being heard in Parliament, and I am sure that they will continue to do that. That is enormously important when we know that regional assemblies have gone away for a while and that the Government’s focus is on local government.

The north-east is a powerful region. I was born there, and I am proud of the fact that I come from there. It has a distinct identity within England, and Ministers have to understand that. The voices that we have heard included that of my hon. Friend the Member for Newcastle upon Tyne North (Catherine McKinnell), who spoke about Newcastle airport. She told us how important its development has been to the region and how it has introduced so many more tourists to the area. People are able to see what a beautiful region it is and what a superb place it is to invest in.

We heard from my hon. Friend the Member for Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland about the varied industries in the north-east, from the chemicals sector, which is long established on Teesside, through, of course, to coal, steel and shipbuilding, which, I am afraid is long gone. The demise of those industries under the previous Conservative Government largely forged my identity in politics. The concern of Opposition Members is that the policies that are being pursued by this Government are a rerun of policies in the 1980s. We profoundly disagreed with what happened and think that it is a mistake to repeat it.

The hon. Member for Wrexham—I am sorry, the hon. Member for Hexham (Guy Opperman)—made some succinct comments about the deficit. Labour Members accept that it needs to be reduced, but we remember that 3.5 million people were unemployed in the United Kingdom under the previous Conservative Government, as opposed to the 2.5 million who are unemployed now. All those people received benefits that were paid from taxpayers’ money, and largely funded by the benefits the Conservatives received from the North sea oil revenues that were available at the time. That waste and spending of public money will be repeated if this Government continue with their policies, which will create a lack of confidence in the economy and business community, and less demand in the economy, less consumption by people and a smaller market. All that will lead to increased unemployment, increased burdens on the state and the type of long-standing depression that we had in the ’80s and again in the ’90s, when unemployment reached 3.5 million again.

Fortunately, the north-east has developed its economy since the 1980s. There has been development in the constituency of my right hon. Friend the Member for Newcastle upon Tyne East (Mr Brown) at the Clipper site, which is a magnificent site on the banks of the Tyne, and development of the low-carbon industry in the north-east with companies such as Romag, which brings so much benefit and forward thinking to industry.

I should mention at this juncture the appalling decision by the Government to bring forward the review on feed-in tariffs, which is hugely damaging for companies such as Romag. The Government purport to know something about business, but that review will result in a lack of long-term stability for decision making. Business complains so much about that. The Government are changing a successful scheme, bringing forward a review, creating instability and creating difficulties for successful businesses that are benefiting not from state support but from direct investment, often from outside the UK. The whole industry would welcome the Government’s looking at that again.

It is important that we accept that regional development agencies are no more. I have attended several debates, and know about the success of One NorthEast. The hon. Member for Redcar (Ian Swales) recognised it in an interesting speech. However, we are moving on. The Government, as they are entitled to, are talking about local enterprise partnerships now, and we need to ensure that they work for the benefit of the north-east region. We need to address what I consider to be some of the failings of LEPs.

The first failing is the lack of resources. LEPs cannot sensibly contribute to driving the region forward if they do not have the resources to set up and develop businesses in their area. It is important that the partnerships should have resources. Of course they need to work with other LEPs in the region, but it is interesting that the Government themselves are showing a lack of confidence in LEPs; for example, on the hugely important issue of broadband. The authority that will contract for the provision of broadband services in the north-east and other areas of England will not be the LEP but the local authorities in individual regions. Having so many contracting bodies trying to formulate an infrastructure for a communications industry will be complex and difficult, and relying on delivery by individual local authorities which may or may not decide to take forward applications to develop broadband services in their area is a big mistake. LEPs, which cover larger areas and which more closely involve business than some local authorities do, should have a role in formulating a policy to take that forward.

The instruments that need to be used by LEPs must be made available to them by the Government. That must include, to some extent, financing, and it must also include the ability at least to be involved in securing funding.

We have heard references to the regional growth fund. There is general agreement in this room that there should be a rebalancing of the economy. The irony of the regional growth fund is that it is not regional at all. Its approach is entirely centralising. It is based not on localities but on a small group of people in a centralised area making decisions for areas about which they know little. That is the tragedy of the operation of the regional growth fund.

We all know that the fund is too small. The number of bids that have been made to it do not correspond in any way to the money that was available through RDAs, and we all know, as the hon. Member for Redcar pointed out, that the limits on the application of money by the regional growth fund are such that many of the grants and support that were given to small businesses in the regions will no longer be available to them. That is an urgent issue that needs to be addressed by the Government.

The other urgent issue that needs to be addressed is the lack of investment by banks and regional bodies in business and industry. We heard a massive amount about that from the Government when they were in opposition—day in, day out—but it has largely disappeared from their public pronouncements. I regret that the only thing that this Government have done as far as investment in business is concerned is to extend Labour’s successful enterprise finance guarantee scheme, which was a strong support for business and industry at a time when it was difficult to secure investment and keep businesses going.

Ian C. Lucas Portrait Ian Lucas
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I have only a minute left, so I cannot give way.

I remember being criticised by the Minister when I sat where he is sitting now, and I shall criticise him now, although he and I get along very well. I do not recall his criticising me for spending too much money at the time. I remember his criticising me for not getting money out more quickly in support of the car industry. I do not remember the Conservatives or the Liberal Democrats opposing the introduction of the car scrappage scheme, and I do not remember their opposing any of the support that brought fundamental investment to the UK and benefited regions such as the north-east. Only now do we hear their constant mantra. The Government’s problem is that they will not reduce the deficit. They are damaging the economy in the same way as they did in the north-east in the 1980s and again in the 1990s. I hope and pray that they do not make the same mistake again.