Oral Answers to Questions Debate

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Department: HM Treasury

Oral Answers to Questions

John Bercow Excerpts
Tuesday 6th September 2011

(12 years, 7 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. I think the shadow Chancellor will want to refer to taxation levels on the banking industry.

Ed Balls Portrait Ed Balls
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The argument that I am making is that the Chancellor is ignoring the case for repeating the bank bonus tax for a second year, even though youth unemployment has gone up by 18%—119,000 more. Let me ask him a second—

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. I say to the shadow Chancellor that what we need now is a very brief question. We need to move on; there are a lot of questions to cover.

Ed Balls Portrait Ed Balls
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The question that people will be asking is if the Chancellor will not change his mind on the bank bonus tax, on VAT and on the pace of deficit reduction, why is he now changing his mind on stalling bank reform? He said that we were all in it together. Why is there one rule for the banks and another rule for everyone else?

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Justine Greening Portrait Justine Greening
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The hon. Gentleman is right to raise the issue because it is important. The challenge that we all face is to make sure that energy bills are affordable not just this winter—the point that he makes—but in winters in 10 and 20 years’ time. The problem that we have as a country is our dependency on fossil fuels. In the long term, we need to get ourselves off that dependency so that we are not so blown about by the international winds that see commodity prices go up and down. In the short term, we are taking steps to support the most vulnerable through the Warm Homes discount. Next year, we will introduce the green deal to help energy efficiency. The hon. Gentleman asks whether we have meetings with energy companies, and of course we do every day. I am sure that he will also—

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. Progress is very slow, and it needs to get faster.

Mark Spencer Portrait Mr Mark Spencer (Sherwood) (Con)
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The Minister will be aware of how rapidly fuel and energy prices have increased. Am I right in thinking, however, that if the Chancellor had not taken action in the Budget, fuel prices would be 6p a litre higher today?

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John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. I am grateful to the hon. Member for Montgomeryshire (Glyn Davies), but his question bears no relation to the responsibilities of the current Government and we will therefore leave it there.

Julian Brazier Portrait Mr Julian Brazier (Canterbury) (Con)
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Would my right hon. Friend accept that the fact that the euro has strengthened as a currency indicates that the markets believe that the weaker countries will not be able to push water up hill for much longer and are bound to drop out of the euro before very long?

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George Osborne Portrait Mr Osborne
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As I have been saying in recent weeks, we need to follow the remorseless logic of monetary union. That was one of the reasons I was against Britain joining the euro—I thought it would lead to greater fiscal integration and common budget policies. There is obviously an active debate about what that might mean, and I would suggest that the first thing that the eurozone countries need to do is to implement the package agreed on 21 July.

May I correct the hon. Gentleman? It is not the case—sadly—that Britain has the slowest growth in Europe. Actually, the problem is that German growth in the last quarter was 0.1% and French growth for Q2 was zero. That is the challenge—a eurozone where growth is faltering, and the situation in the United States. We have to deal with these international problems as well as addressing the very serious problems that we inherited.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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I am grateful to the Chancellor. We do not want the slowest growth, but neither do we want the slowest questions and answers.

Lord Tyrie Portrait Mr Andrew Tyrie (Chichester) (Con)
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The Chancellor has made it clear that he thinks that a monetary union requires a fiscal union. Can a credible fiscal union be put in place without a treaty change?

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Angela Eagle Portrait Ms Eagle
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I do not think that the Chancellor knew the answer to that question, but today’s euro figures have revealed that only two countries—Romania and Portugal—have done worse on growth than the UK in the past year. Only yesterday, the Minister of State, Department for Communities and Local Government, the right hon. Member for Tunbridge Wells (Greg Clark), said from the Dispatch Box that there is a crisis of growth in this country. Was not the Chancellor’s friend, the new head of the IMF, Christine Lagarde, right at the weekend when she said that

“growth is necessary for fiscal credibility… We know that slamming on the brakes too quickly will hurt the”

economy “and worsen job prospects”?

We know that he will not listen to us, but why does the Chancellor not listen to sound advice from his friends, including, we hear, on this weekend’s draft G7 statement, which aims to slow the pace of deficit reduction—

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. I am extremely grateful to the hon. Lady. I think that we have got the gist of it.

George Osborne Portrait Mr Osborne
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I can tell the House that Christine Lagarde will be in London on Friday. We will hear what she has to say then.

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John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. The Minister will want to relate her answer to domestic energy prices. I feel sure that that is what she will do.

Justine Greening Portrait Justine Greening
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I shall try. I am sure that many of those apprenticeships will be in green industry, which is part of how we hope to get this economy back on its feet.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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We are grateful.

Robert Halfon Portrait Robert Halfon (Harlow) (Con)
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15. What fiscal measures he is taking to reduce the costs faced by businesses.

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John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. Time is up. I would love to call more hon. Members, as I enjoy nothing more than hearing my colleagues ask and answer questions, but I am afraid that we must move on to the ten-minute rule motion.