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Department: Ministry of Defence

Oral Answers to Questions

John Bercow Excerpts
Monday 11th June 2012

(11 years, 11 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Nick Harvey Portrait Nick Harvey
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In a sense, we already provide cover for those on the front line in the matter I have described—through the armed forces compensation scheme and the armed forces pension schemes—so that anyone who suffers in consequence of their military service is compensated appropriately. The hon. Lady will be aware that, after the previous Government ordered an independent review of the armed forces compensation scheme, the amounts payable were substantially increased. If members of the armed services decide, for personal reasons, that they want to seek cover additional to that, we are determined to ensure that they are not disadvantaged or prevented from doing so on account of their service in the armed forces. That is why we intervened in the market to ensure that the schemes I mentioned are available, but it would not be right for us to go out and procure those policies on behalf of individuals: these are personal decisions that those individuals make. We provide death-in-service and injury-in-service benefits; it is up to—

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. Minister of State, I think there is extensive scope for an Adjournment debate on the matter.

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Jim Murphy Portrait Mr Jim Murphy
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For the purpose of this question, I shall set aside the partisanship and ask the Minister about the issue again. When one in five members of our forces is shouted at in the street and almost as many are refused service in a pub, hotel or elsewhere, we must all go further. There are sensible examples of legal protections for other specific groups that go much further than the military covenant to protect against discrimination, harassment or abuse. In the light of the research, in the build-up to Armed Forces day and as part of these indulged in—or indulgent—all-party talks, will the Minister consider new legal protections for those who keep our country safe?

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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The Minister should make particular reference to access to social housing.

Lord Robathan Portrait Mr Robathan
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I hear your strictures, Mr Speaker. I am not sure whether new laws are required. What is required is a greater respect for our armed forces and the truth is that most people in this country view our armed forces with great pride, which the four out of five people who are not subject to any form of abuse will recognise. Now, I notice people wearing uniform in the streets much more often, for instance. Once upon a time, that was actively discouraged because one did get abuse, typically from long-haired left-wing students, but that was just when I was young.

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Lord Robathan Portrait Mr Robathan
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Here I call on the help of my civil servants, because I am not aware of any other councils in the west midlands following suit. I applaud Birmingham city council—under, I think, Conservative administration —for putting this to one side—[Interruption.] Then under Conservative administration. I applaud the council and, as the hon. Lady will know, we are encouraging the community covenants that lead to such activities.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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I am sure that the Minister will write to the hon. Lady with further and better particulars when he has consulted his officials.

Lord Robathan Portrait Mr Robathan
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Of course.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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We are grateful to the Minister.

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Peter Luff Portrait Peter Luff
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I must be honest and say that I am not sure what delay the hon. Gentleman refers to, so I suggest that we have a conversation about it later.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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That is a refreshing outbreak of splendid candour, on which we congratulate the Minister.

Lord Evans of Rainow Portrait Graham Evans (Weaver Vale) (Con)
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T1. If he will make a statement on his departmental responsibilities.

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Lord Robathan Portrait Mr Robathan
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Any suicide is a tragedy. The UK has much lower rates of suicide in the armed forces than the US. Research is being done on the matter as we speak, in particular by Professor Simon Wessely of King’s College hospital. Although we remain concerned, for people over 25, service in the armed forces means, curiously, that one is less likely to commit suicide than others. I am happy to discuss the matter further with the hon. Gentleman.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Last but not least, Mr Duncan Hames.

Duncan Hames Portrait Duncan Hames (Chippenham) (LD)
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Next month, the UK will join other Governments at the United Nations to negotiate and agree an international arms trade treaty. We are often told that Britain’s arms controls are among the strictest that one will find anywhere. Does the Minister recognise the benefit to Britain and the world of reaching a strong agreement with as many countries as possible, even if certain countries opt not to become signatories at this time?