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Department: Ministry of Justice

Oral Answers to Questions

Lord Jackson of Peterborough Excerpts
Tuesday 28th June 2011

(12 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Lord Clarke of Nottingham Portrait Mr Clarke
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I made a few slightly light-hearted remarks about U-turns last time—but the Government have a process of consultation, and this is another Catch-22 situation. If we modify our proposals we are accused of making a U-turn, and if we proceed with our proposals we are accused of being deaf.

We explored every possibility of encouraging more early guilty pleas. We still intend to make such proposals, and some of the legal aid reforms are designed to encourage early guilty pleas. Anything that can be done to get early guilty pleas saves a lot of people distress, and also saves a lot of wasted time and cost for the police, the CPS, the courts and the prisons.

Lord Jackson of Peterborough Portrait Mr Stewart Jackson (Peterborough) (Con)
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What message is sent to potential offenders and police officers—one of whom is my own brother—by the guidance of Sir Paul Stephenson, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, that even the most offensive language used against a police officer will not now result in an offence under public order provisions.

Lord Herbert of South Downs Portrait Nick Herbert
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I share my hon. Friend’s concern. We should all agree that it is wholly unacceptable for people to swear at police officers. Whatever the merits of that guidance or the legal position, we should stand by our police officers in the job that they do. They should not have to expect that kind of treatment.