Transforming Legal Aid Debate

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Department: Ministry of Justice

Transforming Legal Aid

Tony Baldry Excerpts
Thursday 5th September 2013

(10 years, 8 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Chris Grayling Portrait Chris Grayling
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I can give my hon. Friend an absolute assurance on that. In my very first contribution to this debate I said that I have to achieve the financial savings set out in our spending review settlement. I am not wedded to any exact way of doing so; if somebody has a better idea, I am happy to look very closely at it. That is what I have done, and this is the agreement we have reached, and it is just a shame that the Opposition do not understand that.

Tony Baldry Portrait Sir Tony Baldry (Banbury) (Con)
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First, may I declare an interest as a practising member of the Bar? Does my right hon. Friend agree that it is not sustainable in the long term if some legally aided members of the Bar are earning substantially more than the Lord Chief Justice or the Prime Minister? One simply cannot continue to have such a system.

Chris Grayling Portrait Chris Grayling
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My hon. Friend is right; we have focused the majority of our changes relating to the Bar on those at the upper end of the income scale. I know that this is difficult and that these are painful decisions for some people, but there will be a limit to what we can afford to pay someone who is living off public funds entirely or almost entirely.