NHS GP Surgeries: Purchase by US Companies Debate

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Department: Department of Health and Social Care

NHS GP Surgeries: Purchase by US Companies

Baroness Bottomley of Nettlestone Excerpts
Monday 5th June 2023

(11 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Markham Portrait Lord Markham (Con)
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I am not aware of any correlation between the type of ownership and the quality of the services from it. If there is one, then we can look at that, but we are focusing resources on the areas where they make most difference, and the focus is: what is the performance of that clinic? That is what we should all care about. How are the doctors there performing in terms of appointment times and everything else? I will not put a false target on who owns it and the structure of it, because that is not relevant. What is relevant is the quality.

Baroness Bottomley of Nettlestone Portrait Baroness Bottomley of Nettlestone (Con)
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Is it not the case that the former chief executive of the NHS brought some extremely valuable experience back from America, from UnitedHealth? I remember long ago in the distant past, when the Labour Party was last in power, that Kaiser Permanente was constantly being consulted. Surely it is an arrogance to have a xenophobic approach to where we take advice and where we learn from other people’s experiences?

Lord Markham Portrait Lord Markham (Con)
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I totally agree with my noble friend. I like to think that we will take advice from whoever is best placed to give it, whether they are public sector, private sector, UK or international.