Pension Schemes Bill

Debate between Baroness Scott of Needham Market and Baroness Bowles of Berkhamsted
Baroness Scott of Needham Market Portrait The Deputy Chairman of Committees (Baroness Scott of Needham Market) (LD)
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I inform the Committee that if this amendment were to be agreed to, I cannot call Amendment 175A for reasons of pre-emption.

Baroness Bowles of Berkhamsted Portrait Baroness Bowles of Berkhamsted (LD)
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My Lords, I support the general issues that the noble Baroness, Lady Noakes, has raised. Of course, if this whole clause were deleted, the amendment that I am seeking in addition would disappear.

I want to speak to my amendment which is about new Section 117D(2), which says:

“The best interests test”, in relation to a unilateral change, is that it is reasonably likely that effecting it will”,


change. I do not like the words “reasonably likely”. We have to examine what “reasonably likely” means in legal terms.

Reasonably likely is a threshold of probability that is lower than the civil standard of “more likely than not”. More likely than not means above 50%, so reasonably likely means less than 50%. Having “reasonably likely” means that lower than 50% might have a better outcome, which is unacceptable. I find it hard to believe that that is what is intended. When you look at a phrase such as “reasonably likely”, you would think that the reasonable is somehow enhancing the likeliness, but in legal terms it is not. It is taking away from it. Therefore, I hope that that can be looked at and that the Government will address that issue.