(14 years, 5 months ago)
Lords Chamber Lord Bassam of Brighton
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Lord Bassam of Brighton 
        
    
        
    
        My Lords, it would help the House if we heard from the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee.
 Baroness Hamwee
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Baroness Hamwee 
        
    
        
    
        My Lords, I hesitate to say it but the House did hear from me some time ago, and I had actually got to the point when I had moved the amendment. However, as it is Committee stage, perhaps I can say another word about it, although it will be by way of repetition and the House is rather fuller than when I was last speaking.
I am not embarrassed at moving the amendment. I understand that there are difficulties relating to many other amendments, but clearly we know what we would be transitioning from—if “transitioning” is a word. What we are transitioning to appears at the moment to be a model that was not the model in our minds at the start of this afternoon as the likely outcome—