Debates between Lord Falconer of Thoroton and Lord Duncan of Springbank during the 2019 Parliament

Wed 17th Jun 2020
Private International Law (Implementation of Agreements) Bill [HL]
Lords Chamber

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Private International Law (Implementation of Agreements) Bill [HL]

Debate between Lord Falconer of Thoroton and Lord Duncan of Springbank
Lord Duncan of Springbank Portrait The Deputy Speaker (Lord Duncan of Springbank) (Con)
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I remind noble Lords that Members other than the mover of an amendment and the Minister may speak only once and that short questions of elucidation are discouraged. Anyone wishing to press an amendment to a Division should make that clear in the debate.

Lord Falconer of Thoroton Portrait Lord Falconer of Thoroton
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My Lords, I will speak very briefly because this amendment has little significance now that the House has decided to remove Clause 2.

Schedule 6 deals with detailed regulation-making power under Clause 2. We will put down an amendment at Third Reading to get rid of Schedule 6, so this does not matter. I tabled Amendment 10 simply to illustrate the width of the power that was being given under Clause 2 and, had we lost the argument on Clause 2, to indicate that we would seek to remove this power. The power in Clause 2(1)(b) allows the Executive by statutory instrument to create offences in connection with the introduction of a private international law treaty with a punishment of up to two years. That is wholly inappropriate, and it illustrates the danger of what was being proposed. But I will not press this amendment to a Division because Schedule 6 will go in any event.

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Lord Falconer of Thoroton Portrait Lord Falconer of Thoroton
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I will explain the question. Does the noble and learned Lord agree that, now that Clause 2 has been deleted, Schedule 6 should also be deleted?

Lord Duncan of Springbank Portrait The Deputy Speaker
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Does the Minister wish to respond?

Lord Keen of Elie Portrait Lord Keen of Elie
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It may well be that it should be deleted, but it is for the noble and learned Lord to move his amendment if he wishes it to be deleted.

Lord Falconer of Thoroton Portrait Lord Falconer of Thoroton
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As the noble and learned Lord knows, I do not have such an amendment down. Obviously, what I was saying was that I would put down an amendment at Third Reading. Does he agree that that would be agreed to by the Government?

Lord Duncan of Springbank Portrait The Deputy Speaker
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It helps if I can make the announcement so that people can capture this on camera. Does the Minister wish to respond?