All 1 Debates between Bob Seely and Lord Vaizey of Didcot

Tue 29th Oct 2019
Early Parliamentary General Election Bill
Commons Chamber

2nd reading: House of Commons & 2nd reading: House of Commons

Early Parliamentary General Election Bill

Debate between Bob Seely and Lord Vaizey of Didcot
2nd reading: House of Commons
Tuesday 29th October 2019

(4 years, 5 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Bob Seely Portrait Mr Seely
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For me, a customs union is not a realistic Brexit and it is not the kind of Brexit that was voted for. That is not the sort of Brexit that many Labour voters want to see either. The Labour party actually did quite well in my patch at the last election. It got 16,000 or 17,000 votes. Half of those votes were from people who wanted Brexit and I think they will be very disappointed by the behaviour of the hon. Gentleman’s leadership in not voting for Brexit. I do not think it is in the interests of his party either. We all want to move on, because there is so much else to do.

Lord Vaizey of Didcot Portrait Mr Edward Vaizey (Wantage) (Ind)
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Mr Speaker, I cannot work out whether you are eating popcorn as you watch this extraordinary spectacle of a great debate between two of our great parliamentarians play out across the Chamber.

Lord Vaizey of Didcot Portrait Mr Vaizey
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Does my hon. Friend not agree with me that this election provides a fantastic opportunity for each of the main parties to set out in principle what they want to see from Brexit, and to finally address the point that the public voted to leave the European Union but are leaving it to parliamentarians to decide the best way of delivering Brexit? It is therefore incumbent on both main parties to set out their Brexit proposals. We can at least unite in this fractious Chamber by agreeing that no deal is not an option and that those who voted to stop no deal are the real heroes of Parliament.

Bob Seely Portrait Mr Seely
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I thank my right hon. Friend for what I think was a friendly intervention. I am certainly learning to appreciate the benefit of friendly interventions.

Bob Seely Portrait Mr Seely
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I have just been refuelled, Mr Speaker.

We were talking about the need for a new Parliament. There are many things that I would like a Parliament to spend much more time talking about instead of being so focused on Brexit. The rise of autocracies is a very serious issue. On Huawei, do we allow the use in this country of high tech from a communist party state, especially if its stated aim is to dominate global 5G in the years to come? I am wary of making the world safe for autocracies and one-party states. We need time to debate that.

Another issue is the ongoing disaster of Syria and the clear mistakes made by President Trump. There is also the need for integration of overseas foreign policy. We also have an exciting domestic agenda and I want us to talk more about that.

Finally, I want an Isle of Wight deal so that our public services are of the same standard as those on the mainland, or the north island, as we call it. Most parts of the United Kingdom that are isolated by water—in other words, islands—either have a fixed link, which we are never going to have because it would cost £3 billion, or more money through increased public expenditure, but the Island has neither, and that has been a structural flaw for many years.

The best way to deal with all of those problems is for us to agree to an election and to listen to our constituents, the folks in the places that we care for and love—

Lord Vaizey of Didcot Portrait Mr Vaizey
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Are you winding up?

Bob Seely Portrait Mr Seely
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I am trying to. Does my right hon. Friend wish to intervene, or shall I just get on with it?

Lord Vaizey of Didcot Portrait Mr Vaizey
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No, I’m waiting for you to finish.

Bob Seely Portrait Mr Seely
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Fantastic. For all those reasons, I very much want an election if we cannot have Brexit. Given that, thanks to the Labour party, Brexit now seems to be off the table, an election is the way forward.