Defence Spending and Readiness Debate

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Department: Ministry of Defence

Defence Spending and Readiness

Esther McVey Excerpts
Tuesday 23rd June 2026

(2 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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James Cartlidge Portrait James Cartlidge
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That is a nice try, but the question that the hon. Gentleman needs to answer is this: if things are so good, why did both the Secretary of State and the Minister for the Armed Forces resign?

Esther McVey Portrait Esther McVey (Tatton) (Con)
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Will my hon. Friend give way?

James Cartlidge Portrait James Cartlidge
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I will give way to my right hon. Friend in a minute, especially as I am coming to an area of policy that she knows only too well. As I was saying, we ask ourselves: why would the Government have to cut defence? And the answer is: because they will not cut welfare. With that, I give way to the former Secretary of State for Work and Pensions.

Esther McVey Portrait Esther McVey
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Can my right hon. Friend clarify the financial offer that the Prime Minister made for the defence investment plan? Can he confirm that it was only 0.08% of GDP, which was £10 billion in real cash terms, not the £13 billion on offer? That was what prompted the Defence Secretary to resign, because it was not enough to keep our nation safe.

James Cartlidge Portrait James Cartlidge
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My right hon. Friend is literally on the money. That is exactly right. It was a derisory increase to 2.68%, when the 2.6% figure already includes elements such as the intelligence budget, which have been used to inflate it.

I was speaking about welfare—