Oral Answers to Questions

Jack Lopresti Excerpts

Monday 30th January 2017 Commons Chamber

[Simon Hoare (North Dorset) (Con)]

13. What recent discussions he has had with his international counterparts on NATO’s 2% GDP spending target.

[Jack Lopresti (Filton and Bradley Stoke) (Con)]

18. What recent discussions he has had with his international counterparts on NATO’s 2% GDP spending target.

[The Secretary of State for Defence (Sir Michael Fallon)]

At the Wales summit, NATO agreed that security depends on both how much we spend and how we spend it. All 28 allies committed to meeting the defence investment pledge. The United Kingdom already meets NATO’s spending targets, and will continue to do so for the rest of this decade. I regularly encourage all allies similarly to meet this commitment.

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[Sir Michael Fallon]

There we agree with President Trump. Since making the defence investment pledge, the majority of allies have increased their spending in real terms, but it is still too low: 19 of the NATO 28 spend less than 1.5%, and five NATO members—by no means the poorest—do not even spend 1%. We will continue, with the United States, to encourage all allies to meet those spending commitments.

[Jack Lopresti]

As well as encouraging our NATO allies to maintain the spending of 2% of GDP on defence, will my right hon. Friend ensure that they do not achieve the 2% by including extraneous items such as pensions and other administration costs, rather than investing in frontline capability?

[Sir Michael Fallon]

The expenditure that NATO classifies as meeting or not meeting the 2% is something for NATO to judge against its own guidelines. I note that our own Defence Committee commended the Government’s commitment to UK defence and found that our accounting criteria fell firmly within existing NATO guidelines, but ultimately, as I have said, this is a matter for NATO to judge.