Pension Schemes Bill

Lord Ashcombe Excerpts

Monday 27th April 2026 Lords Chamber

[Baroness Altmann (Non-Afl)]

I support the noble Baroness, Lady Bowles. I point out to the Minister that the Mansion House Accord had two parts. The second part had government obligations, on the basis of which the industry voluntarily agreed to invest in the private assets that the Government favour. None of the Government’s obligations is enshrined in the Bill; they are hoped for. The Minister assumes that private assets will definitely outperform and that if savers do not invest in them they will be losing out somehow. There is no underpin for the losses and even if the investment experts decide that they disagree and would not normally want to buy them, they will still be forced to. This is not the way to get pension funds to invest successfully or to trust the Government in the future. I hope that the Government will think again.

[Lord Ashcombe (Con)]

My Lords, I declare my interest as an employee of Marsh, whose sister company Mercer is a pension consultancy, master trust provider and, importantly, a signatory to the Mansion House Accord. Firms that signed the Mansion House Accord last year in good faith, believing that fiduciary duty and trustee oversight would be preserved in order to ensure value for money for the individual pensioners whose funds they are responsible for investing, now face the prospect—or, dare I say, the threat—of mandation. This simply cannot be right, and we certainly do not think so.

[Baroness Stedman-Scott (Con)]

My Lords, I have little to add to the compelling case set out by the noble Baroness, Lady Bowles, and indeed by us all throughout the passage of the Bill. Our position remains unchanged: mandation has no place in the Bill and, if the Government are serious about securing its passage, they should remove it.