Nicholas Dakin
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The Vice-Chamberlain of His Majesty’s Household (Sir Nicholas Dakin)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Efford. I am pleased to respond to this lively and informative debate, and I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Peterborough (Andrew Pakes) on securing it and such good attendance, too. I thank all hon. Members for their contributions; I think I have collected invitations to Peterborough, Carlisle, Worthing, Stockport, Matlock and the as-yet-to-be-built sea pool on the Isle of Wight.
Sam Rushworth
I just want to extend the Minister’s invitation list: I invite him to see the lido that we want to reopen at Stanhope and to come to Crook, where the public baths closed 10 years ago. Will he write and let us know what opportunities there are for Sport England funding for that sort of project? At the moment, I am not promising it to my voters, although I am really committed to it. I am meeting with Crook Community Leisure and others and trying to make it happen, but I struggle to see a way to do it without Government support.
Sir Nicholas Dakin
My hon. Friend’s energy and willingness to work with Crook Community Leisure speaks for itself, but I will certainly take away that question and share it with the Under-Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, my hon. Friend the Member for Barnsley South (Stephanie Peacock). She was meant to respond to the debate, but unfortunately, due to the change in the voting pattern, she needed to get the last train to Cornwall at 7 pm, so she sends her apologies to hon. Members. She is disappointed not to be here, as she was very excited to talk about lidos. She will be keen to read the debate and follow up with hon. Members on any questions that I fail to answer appropriately.
As we heard, it is an exciting time of year for the art deco Peterborough lido, which is a jewel in the crown of Peterborough. I understand that my hon. Friend the Member for Peterborough will be one of the first to make a splash in the newly reopened lido.
Sir Nicholas Dakin
Tomorrow, he will be splashing. He invited me to drop into Peterborough as I pass by on my way home to Scunthorpe, but unfortunately I am not sure that I will be able to do that.
Lidos are not only a vital part of our culture; they offer a great contribution to our health and wellbeing, too. We heard about the restoration of Worthing lido to its former glory. We heard about the value of Brockwell lido, which my hon. Friend the Member for Dulwich and West Norwood (Helen Hayes) talked about at great length and with great passion—I thank her for that. We heard from my hon. Friend the Member for Derbyshire Dales (John Whitby) about Matlock Bath; the lido’s contribution towards the heritage and tourism there is a good example of the contribution of lidos across the country.
Lidos are part of our deep cultural heritage, as my hon. Friend the Member for Peterborough said, and I think that has been demonstrated by the energy of the debate. Certainly, we have the beginnings of a lido network here, and I encourage hon. Members to work with their local lidos to join them up. I think that would help in working with the Department, Sport England and other bodies to ensure that the voice of the lido world has its full impact.
Sport and physical activity, especially activities such as swimming, play a vital role in tackling the health challenges facing our nation by helping to treat and manage a wide variety of health conditions. My hon. Friend spoke with passion about his local lido, and I can understand the appeal of outdoor swimming. He is right that swimming and the public good go together, and lidos are an important part of that.
The Under-Secretary of State experienced some of the benefits of outdoor swimming when she joined Mental Health Swims for a swim in Hampstead ponds a while ago. That reinforced for her the positive impact that swimming, and outdoor swimming in particular, can have on mental health. Last Sunday I attended the annual north Lincolnshire swimarathon at The Pods in Scunthorpe, which is organised by local rotary clubs and raises thousands of pounds for local charities. It is good for the wellbeing of both volunteers and swimmers.
A golden thread that ran through everybody’s speeches was the voluntary effort that is put into running these facilities, whether by campaigners to maintain the facilities or to rejuvenate them. My hon. Friend the Member for Carlisle (Ms Minns) drew attention to Steve Yeates, the secretary of Carlisle Turkish baths. His story is an inspiration for all the other volunteers across the country. We pay tribute to him and, through him, to all those other volunteers who do so much in our world of sport and wellbeing to make the world a better place.
Swim England’s “Value of Swimming” report highlighted that 1.4 million adults in Britain felt that swimming significantly reduced their anxiety or depression, and that swimming saved the NHS and social care system over £357 million annually. Physical activity interventions contribute to an immense saving to the NHS by preventing 900,000 cases of diabetes and 93,000 cases of dementia every year. As the hon. Member for Newton Abbot (Martin Wrigley) said, investing in lidos is an investment in the nation’s health.
The Government are committed to pivoting our health system to focus on prevention, and sport and physical activity are central to that. The biggest health gain comes from supporting those who are inactive, or less active, to move more. We know that swimming is a fantastic activity for the more inactive.
Catherine West
The Minister is making an excellent point about prevention. The other thing that Swim England always emphasises is the importance of 11-year-olds being able to swim when they leave primary school. As a former teacher, does he agree with that?
Sir Nicholas Dakin
I absolutely do, and my hon. Friend moves me on to my next point. Before I come to it, though, let me emphasise that we are acting on the 10-year health plan by developing a national plan for physical activity. That plan will set out how the Government are working across sectors, from health to sport to transport, to enable everyone, and particularly the least active, to access physical activity and benefit from social connection and improved wellbeing.
My hon. Friend rightly raises the importance of swimming. As a former teacher, I fully understand the importance of swimming lessons for children. My hon. Friend the Member for Stroud (Dr Opher) drew attention to that, too, as well as to his local lido.
Swimming is a vital life skill, as the Opposition spokesperson, the hon. Member for Isle of Wight East (Joe Robertson), said. Swimming and water safety are compulsory elements of the physical education national curriculum at key stages 1 and 2. Pupils should be taught to swim a minimum of 25 metres, use a range of strokes and perform safe self-rescue in different water-based situations.
It is clear that we are facing significant challenges, and the number of children leaving school able to swim the required 25 metres unaided is sadly falling. We need to put additional focus and effort into this area. Last year’s data shows that only 73% of year 7 pupils aged 11 to 12 can swim confidently and proficiently over distances of at least 25 metres. We must strive to get that percentage as close to 100% as possible, so that children can safely enjoy this wonderful activity.
What is clear is that the inequalities between those who have access to opportunities to swim and those who do not—we have heard much about access in this debate—are widening further. Through the Government’s work to reform school sport, we are committed to protecting time for physical education in schools, including by supporting schools to provide opportunities for every pupil to learn to swim.
There is evidence of a direct correlation between increased activity levels and areas of the country with the highest density of accessible facilities that are safe, inclusive and affordable. It is fantastic to see Peterborough council and the Government working together to ensure that those facilities are available for the local community in Peterborough. I am delighted to hear that the lido has reopened and is flourishing, with over 37,000 visitors last year—a record year. That should give heart to all hon. Members who are endeavouring to move forward with their local lidos in a similar way.
It is positive that the Government are supporting the development of a new swimming pool and sports quarter, by providing £20 million from the growth mission fund. Sport and leisure facilities can help create a sense of pride in place and improve community cohesion, whether through team sports, gym classes or children’s swimming lessons.
My hon. Friend the Minister saw this at first hand at Bletchley leisure centre in Milton Keynes and the physical activity hub in Bedworth, both of which she was fortunate enough to visit in February and March. It is clear that those facilities make a huge difference to people’s lives. She has also seen the impact of community facilities in her own constituency. Your Space Hoyland provides swimming, football, badminton, netball, basketball and a gym. The centre is not for profit and reinvests money back into its facilities.
My hon. Friend the Member for Peterborough knows all this and has made a powerful and passionate case for the important role that quality, accessible community swimming facilities can play in his constituency, illustrating his commitment by securing this debate. Local government has an integral role to play. We heard from my hon. Friend the Member for Stockport (Navendu Mishra), who is working as best he can with Stockport council, and I commend his continued efforts to engage with it. I also share his best wishes for Stockport Metro in the upcoming Commonwealth games.
While local authorities are responsible for decisions on sport and leisure provision in their areas, we recognise the challenges faced, especially by smaller councils. The Government are committed to supporting local government and ensuring that funding goes to the places that need it most through the local government finance settlement.
The Department for Culture, Media and Sport is responsible for the overall approach to sport and leisure provision across the country. We work closely with Sport England, the Government’s arm’s length body for community sport, to invest over £250 million of national lottery and Government money annually into some of the most deprived areas of the country to help them increase physical activity levels. That includes a vital £10.6 million through Sport England for grassroots swimming, empowering more people to learn to swim, enjoy the water safely and compete.
Sport England’s place-based investment approach, which now covers over 90 communities and places local voices at the heart of decision making, is a testament to our evolving strategy. However, we recognise that the journey does not end there. Certainly, if Members want the Department to look into facilitating more MP engagement with Sport England, we would be happy to do so.
We have had an excellent debate, and I thank everyone for their contributions. We have shouted out very loudly for lidos this afternoon, which I think will continue with the efforts of my hon. and right hon. Friends present.