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Department: Northern Ireland Office

Oral Answers to Questions

John Bercow Excerpts
Wednesday 6th July 2011

(12 years, 9 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Owen Paterson Portrait Mr Paterson
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I am grateful to the shadow Minister, who is on perky form this morning. I have regular meetings with the chairman of Co-operation Ireland; I am actually seeing him again today. However, dealing with community groups is very much in local hands. I have had recent discussions with the First Minister and the Deputy First Minister, and I am seeing both of them again tomorrow. This is very much a local issue to be sorted out on the ground according to local circumstances. [Interruption.]

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. There are far too many private conversations taking place in the Chamber. We need to be able to hear the Secretary of State.

Jim Shannon Portrait Jim Shannon (Strangford) (DUP)
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Given the ease with which guns were produced at the Short Strand interface, does the Secretary of State understand the annoyance and anger at the fact that the inventory of the weapons destroyed by the Independent International Commission on Decommissioning was not made known? Does he agree that the people of Northern Ireland have a right to know the full extent of the destruction of weaponry that has taken place? The Conservatives and Labour have agreed on that, and the inventory has also been lodged in Washington.

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None Portrait Several hon. Members
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John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. I want to hear Mr Gregory Campbell.

Gregory Campbell Portrait Mr Gregory Campbell (East Londonderry) (DUP)
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Thank you, Mr Speaker. The ease with which cross-border trafficking between Northern Ireland and the Republic can occur is quite obvious and apparent to everyone. Will the Minister ensure that liaison with the Republic of Ireland’s authorities is stepped up to ensure that those who are being trafficked can be helped, given the problems that they are facing?

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Ronnie Campbell Portrait Mr Campbell
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I echo the sentiments that the Prime Minister has expressed. As a father whose son is serving in the Royal Marines and doing his duty in Afghanistan, I can tell the House that those in my position dread the knock on the door saying that their son has been lost in action. Our sympathies obviously go to Scott’s father, mother and family at this time.

Is it right that yesterday we gave £10 billion to the bail-out of the banks in Greece, that we gave £7 billion to the bail-out in Ireland, and that we—the British taxpayers—give £100 billion a year to the banks in this country for insurance and other purposes? Why does the Prime Minister not get on his bike, go down to see his friends in the City, and sack a few spivs and speculators and bankers—

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. We are grateful to the hon. Gentleman. We have got the gist.

Lord Cameron of Chipping Norton Portrait The Prime Minister
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Let me say first that it is this Government who have imposed a levy on the banks so that they pay more every year than they paid in bankers’ bonus tax under the last Government. As for Greece, I kept us out of a European bail-out, and as for Ireland, its economy is so close and so integrated with ours that it is right for us to give it support. That, I think, is the right approach, but this Government are being tough in ensuring that the banks pay their fair share.

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Lord Cameron of Chipping Norton Portrait The Prime Minister
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What people—[Interruption.]

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. I apologise for interrupting the Prime Minister, but the Prime Minister should not have to shout to be heard and neither, for that matter, should the Leader of the Opposition. It is thoroughly disorderly and the Prime Minister will now be heard.

Lord Cameron of Chipping Norton Portrait The Prime Minister
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Thank you, Mr Speaker. I take full responsibility for everyone I employ and everyone I appoint and I take responsibility for everything my Government do. What this Government are doing is making sure—the public and I feel appalled by what has happened, and the fact that murder victims and terrorist victims have had their phones hacked is quite disgraceful. That is why it is important that there is a full police investigation with all the powers the police need. That is why it is important that we have those inquiries to get to the bottom of what went wrong and the lessons that need to be learned. That is why we also need to inquire as to how we can improve the ethics and morals of the press in this country and ensure that they improve for the future. That is what needs to be done, that is what the Government are doing and we do not need to take lectures from the right hon. Gentleman about it.

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David Morris Portrait David Morris (Morecambe and Lunesdale) (Con)
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Does the Prime Minister agree with me that the alleged bail-out mentioned by the Opposition of £10 billion is not that and that if we are not in the IMF we will not be a global player? Does he also agree that the Opposition need reminding that in the 1970s the IMF bailed out their Government?

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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I know that the Prime Minister will want to deal with the first part of the question, but not the second part because it was disorderly.

Lord Cameron of Chipping Norton Portrait The Prime Minister
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I absolutely agree with what my hon. Friend said. It was remarkable yesterday that the Labour party put itself in the position of opposing our involvement in the IMF. Britain is a serious global economy and we should take responsibility for serious global issues, including through the IMF.

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Lord Cameron of Chipping Norton Portrait The Prime Minister
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We have banned the Tehrik-e-Taliban—we have taken action. As my right hon. Friend the Lord Chancellor will hastily testify, it is endlessly frustrating that we are subject to so many legal requirements, but I am afraid that we have to be a Government under the law. [Interruption.]

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. The House will want to hear Mr Robert Halfon.

Robert Halfon Portrait Robert Halfon (Harlow) (Con)
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Q11. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Given that the Olympics and the diamond jubilee will take place next year, is the Prime Minister aware that immigration and special branch officers at Stansted airport are concerned that the common travel area channel in its current form allows illegal migrants, Islamists and terrorists into the country without their passports being checked? Will he take urgent steps to close that loophole immediately?

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Lord Cameron of Chipping Norton Portrait The Prime Minister
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Of course I will look closely at the case that the hon. Lady makes, but every Government—[Interruption.]

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. I want to hear the Prime Minister’s answer, and so does the House.

Lord Cameron of Chipping Norton Portrait The Prime Minister
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We need to make sure that our welfare reforms encourage those people who sit on welfare and who could work actually to go out to work. Under the Labour Government, yes, we had economic growth, but there were 5 million working-age people living on benefits. That is not good enough, and we are going to change it.

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Lord Cameron of Chipping Norton Portrait The Prime Minister
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The point is that we have followed the correct legal processes. If you do not follow the correct legal processes, you will be judicially reviewed, and all the decisions that you would like to make from a political point of view will be struck down in the courts. You would look pretty for a day, but useless for a week. [Interruption.]

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. If the House can overcome its collective mirth, it will give a hearing to Mr Ian Swales.

Ian Swales Portrait Ian Swales (Redcar) (LD)
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Last Friday I visited Grangetown school in my constituency, which is the 17th most deprived primary school in the country. Will the Prime Minister join me in congratulating the school and community on their work to convert an area of demolished houses into a school playing field, and will he ensure that the Government continue their pupil premium policy to support the school’s excellent work?