Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Act 2012 (Legal Aid: Domestic Abuse) (Miscellaneous Amendments) Order 2025 Debate
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Grand CommitteeMy Lords, time is of the essence, so I will be brief. I thank the Minister for his compassionate introduction. He has been so good as to indicate, unasked and informatively, where the pilot areas are. He mentioned my homeland, north Wales. I wonder whether he can be specific as to whereabouts in that lovely land.
My Lords, I thank the Minister for his comprehensive introduction to this order. It has been extremely helpful to hear the way in which he set it out.
Broadly, we support the changes made by this instrument. It is plainly right that the regulations affecting legal aid for the victims of domestic abuse should reflect the broader definition of “domestic abuse” in the Domestic Abuse Act, rather than the previous, narrow definition of “domestic violence”, which failed to recognise, for example, coercive and controlling behaviour. It is also right that the narrow definition of “financial” abuse is to be replaced with a broader definition of “economic” abuse in all the other areas that the Minister outlined. The regulations should be updated—as he has explained that they will be—to ensure that legal aid is available in relation to disputes concerning domestic abuse protection orders and domestic abuse protection notices.
That medical evidence is now to be admissible from overseas health professionals is plainly sensible; it is an anomaly that this was not already the case. There was, for example, nothing to cover the position of a victim of domestic abuse who was assaulted by a partner while temporarily abroad on holiday and who had obtained contemporaneous evidence of that assault while she or he—usually she—was still abroad. It is also sensible that abuse of third parties—often the child of an intended victim or victim—should be within the definition of domestic abuse for legal aid purposes.
As has been explained, these regulations also make a significant improvement in the position of those whose immigration status comes under threat as a result of domestic abuse at the hands of a former partner or spouse when the relationship that has broken down as a result of that abuse formed the basis of their obtaining leave to enter and remain in the United Kingdom and the breakdown threatens their immigration status. The provision of a clear route for such victims of domestic abuse to secure legal aid to pursue an application for leave to remain is right and we welcome it.
So all these reforms are very welcome, but this kind of piecemeal reform, welcome as it is, barely scratches the surface in repairing the damage done by the reductions in the scope of legal aid. The Labour Party has a long tradition of supporting legal aid, but legal aid, particularly civil legal aid, has been a Cinderella service in recent years, seriously restricted in scope by the LASPO Act —I entirely accept that the coalition Government, which my party supported, had a lot to do with that —and in a number of very important areas. The service has been starved of funds for the provision of comprehensive advice and the pursuit of cases in those areas that are still within scope.
I know there is no need to remind the Minister of the excellent review of legal aid carried out under the leadership of his colleague, the noble Lord, Lord Bach, in 2017, but its principles were well stated, thoroughly argued and should guide this Government on the future of legal aid across the field. Indeed, the impact assessment for the 2023 order sets out the principle underlying civil legal aid in wide-ranging terms that I unhesitatingly endorse. I read them by way of reminder and in an effort to hold the Government’s feet to the fire across the wider field of legal aid.
Under the heading
“What are the policy objectives of the action or intervention and the intended effects?”
the impact assessment states:
“The policy objective behind the proposals in this Impact Assessment … is to ensure that legal aid is available to the groups of people identified and that legal aid is fairly provided across all proceedings. The ability of individuals to resolve their legal issues is vital for a just society and it is crucial that people are able to access support when they need it. A core element of this support is access to legal advice and representation where it is necessary. The Government provides legal aid in England and Wales to ensure those who need it can access legal advice and representation”.
So far, that is entirely across the field in general. Coming to the subject of this statutory instrument, it says
“including victims of domestic abuse, and parents having their child taken away”.
This is an important general principle that I remind the Government of in relation to this order, which we support.