All 1 Lord Marlesford contributions to the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act 2022

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Mon 8th Nov 2021
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Monday 8th November 2021

(2 years, 5 months ago)

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Lord Thomas of Gresford Portrait Lord Thomas of Gresford (LD)
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Driving is an activity which is universal. Equally, the mistake—or negligence—is also universal, and I do draw that distinction. I appreciate where the noble Lord is coming from, but that is the distinction I make.

Lord Marlesford Portrait Lord Marlesford (Con)
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My Lords, I very much agree with the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope, and other noble Lords who have spoken. It seems that there is a perfectly obvious, very serious penalty which can be applied to the most egregious cases of careless driving, where there is very serious injury, and that is a lifetime ban on driving. That would be much more effective than imprisonment.

Earl Attlee Portrait Earl Attlee (Con)
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My Lords, there is an obvious difference between an offence of careless driving and a health and safety offence: the health and safety offence is ongoing—someone is operating a dangerous machine, they have not done proper risk assessments—whereas an offence of careless driving can be a momentary lapse.