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Oral Answers to Questions

John Bercow Excerpts
Tuesday 21st July 2015

(8 years, 9 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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George Osborne Portrait Mr Osborne
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We entirely acknowledge that we need to improve the productivity of the British economy. That is why, after the Budget, we published the productivity plan, which will introduce, for example, an apprenticeship levy to ensure that young people are given the skills and training that they need, and roads funds that will help to ensure that we have the right infrastructure for our country’s future.

As the hon. Gentleman acknowledged this morning in an interesting tweet, I think it was, the Labour party is going back to the 1980s. Those were his words. Unfortunately, the sensible voices of the old intake—

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Sit down!

George Osborne Portrait Mr Osborne
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—are being drowned by those of the new intake.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Chancellor, sit down, man! I told you to sit down, so sit down! Mr Andrew Tyrie.

Lord Tyrie Portrait Mr Andrew Tyrie (Chichester) (Con)
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I am sorry about that, Mr Speaker. I thought that the Chancellor was just getting into gear.

Growth will, of course, depend partly on what the Bank of England does. Over the past five years, the Chancellor and Parliament have granted the Bank huge new powers over not only monetary but, in particular, financial policy, which directly affect millions of people. Does that not make the reforms of the way in which the Bank runs itself that the Chancellor will propose, along with greater accountability for its new board—for which the Treasury Committee, among others, has been pressing for a long time—all the more essential?

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Stewart Hosie Portrait Stewart Hosie
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That is a fascinating answer, because of course the real answer is that in cash terms the spending is down—from 2015-16 onwards down £1.2 billion, £0.8 billion, £0.9 billion, £0.7 billion, and £1.3 billion by the time we get to 2019-20. So we know the forecasts are reduced, we know the Chancellor is cutting more than he needs in order to run a balanced budget, and we know he is undermining the potential for long-term growth, so why did he ignore all the advice, particularly from the OECD who told him two days before the Budget that “gross investment is low” and

“Transport infrastructure investment is poor”?

Does he really expect us to believe every—

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. Questions are too long. We have got the general drift of the argument; let’s hear the answer.

George Osborne Portrait Mr Osborne
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We are investing a record amount in our transport system, and the new roads fund will help with transport investment in England, but there will be consequentials and money for Scotland as well. I make this general observation to the hon. Gentleman: if the Scottish Government think we are not spending enough in Scotland, they can raise taxes on the Scottish people and spend all the money in Scotland. They should have the courage to make that argument to the Scottish people.

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John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Some of these answers require a bit of practice, because they suffer from the disadvantage of being not just a bit long, but far too long—hopelessly long.

Robert Neill Portrait Robert Neill (Bromley and Chislehurst) (Con)
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2. What steps he is taking to ensure as many policy holders as possible are identified before the Equitable Life payment scheme closes to new claimants on 31 December 2015.

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Harriett Baldwin Portrait Harriett Baldwin
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I know the hon. Gentleman has a long-standing point of view in this regard. The important point is that we want to empower local economic areas to grow as fast as London and the south-east. Among the important measures in the Cities and Local Government Devolution Bill are the strong and accountable governance arrangements for, for example, Mayors.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Last but not least, I call Mr Green.

Chris Green Portrait Chris Green (Bolton West) (Con)
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15. What comparative assessment he has made of the rates of wage growth and inflation.

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Ian Blackford Portrait Ian Blackford
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We hear from the Institute for Fiscal Studies that the gross impact of the higher minimum wage will be about £4 billion, but that the cuts to tax credits represent about £6 billion. The proportion of children in poverty who are from families in work rose from 54% to 63%, and that statistic can only get worse. It is little surprise that the Government want to redefine child poverty. To change a definition is to change the truth—

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. I thought the hon. Gentleman had a background in the financial world. He cannot have been allowed to prate on at that length when he was busy making important decisions with commercial substance involved. He will really have to practise.

George Osborne Portrait Mr Osborne
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Let me give the hon. Gentleman a figure: 200,000 workers in Scotland will gain from the new national living wage, which is 9% of the workforce. The Budget is offering people in Scotland and across the United Kingdom higher wages, lower taxes and, yes, lower welfare, as part of a new contract whereby this country lives within its means. That is one reason why jobs are being created in Scotland.

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Harriett Baldwin Portrait The Economic Secretary to the Treasury (Harriett Baldwin)
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Residents in Barton-upon-Humber are very fortunate to have such a champion as my hon. Friend representing their interests. I am sure that as he has raised the matter in the House the banks in question will have noted his point, and he has represented his constituents well.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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I call Callum McCaig. No? I call Mr Skinner.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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May I reassure the hon. Gentleman that I was not confusing him with Mr McCaig? I thought Mr McCaig wished to ask a question earlier. The hon. Gentleman is unique, we all know who he is and we want to hear him.

Dennis Skinner Portrait Mr Skinner
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And I am a little bit older than him.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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I was too polite to make that point.

Dennis Skinner Portrait Mr Skinner
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I can do it any day of the week.

Has the Chancellor of the Exchequer not got a bit of a cheek to be constantly using Question Time to attack the Labour leadership elections—[Interruption.] Take your time! The Chancellor is involved in an election himself. Every time he opens his mouth, it is directed towards the hon. Member for Uxbridge and South Ruislip (Boris Johnson) and the Home Secretary. Does he not realise that the Home Secretary has already knocked him out with the water cannon? Remember, some of us are watching that contest very carefully. The Chancellor should be careful he does not knock himself out.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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With particular reference to his Treasury responsibilities, I call the Chancellor of the Exchequer.

Dennis Skinner Portrait Mr Skinner
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He started it: you heard him!

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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I hear everything in this Chamber.

George Osborne Portrait Mr Osborne
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What the hon. Gentleman and the Labour party fail to understand is that we cannot stand up for working people unless we create a strong economy that lives within its means. I would only make this observation: he has a Labour party he is very happy with now, and so do I.

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None Portrait Several hon. Members
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rose—

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. I am sorry to disappoint remaining colleagues. Treasury questions is a box office occasion and demand tends always to outstrip supply. We must now move on.