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Department: Ministry of Justice

Oral Answers to Questions

Damian Green Excerpts
Tuesday 17th December 2013

(10 years, 4 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Robert Flello Portrait Robert Flello (Stoke-on-Trent South) (Lab)
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6. What steps he plans to take to enforce the code of practice for victims of crime.

Damian Green Portrait The Minister for Policing, Criminal Justice and Victims (Damian Green)
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We are working with all service providers who have duties under the victims code to ensure that their operational systems, guidance and training are updated to deliver their new responsibilities to victims of crime. We will continue to work with our criminal justice partners to ensure there is appropriate oversight of the new code at a local and national level.

Robert Flello Portrait Robert Flello
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I am immensely grateful for that.

“There is more to be done to ensure agencies are made accountable under the code…this needs to be backed up by statutory powers.”

Those are not my words but the words of the Victims’ Commissioner herself. At every turn, the Government have paid lip service to victims and then acted against them. They have made the Victims’ Commissioner job part-time and then savaged the criminal injuries scheme. Will the Minister now give the victims code some real teeth, and not just warm words?

Damian Green Portrait Damian Green
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I am afraid the hon. Gentleman is massively out of touch with the sector that deals with victims if he expresses those views. When we launched the victims code, it was welcomed by a wide range of our partners in the voluntary sectors, including Victim Support and the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children. The victims code is a significant step forward from the old impenetrable code that the previous Government put forward, and it has been welcomed by those who know most about the sector.

Simon Hughes Portrait Simon Hughes (Bermondsey and Old Southwark) (LD)
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The one thing victims want most is to know that the perpetrators of the crime are brought to justice. Can the Minister assure us that we are doing enough to ensure that associates of the offender, or people who saw something, have the ability to report what they saw without fear of recrimination? If necessary, they can do it confidentially to start with.

Damian Green Portrait Damian Green
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That would be good police practice. One thing we are doing with the code is ensuring that the guidance that goes out to the police from the College of Policing will be improved to fit with the victims code. In other parts of the criminal justice system, both with the Crown Prosecution Service and the courts themselves, the code will make a difference in all instances and will enable victims to feel more confident.

Meg Hillier Portrait Meg Hillier (Hackney South and Shoreditch) (Lab/Co-op)
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The Secretary of State is planning to cut funding for Victim Support in London at a greater rate than anywhere else in the country. Will the Minister listen to his friend the Mayor of London and ensure that victims in London get the support they deserve?

Damian Green Portrait Damian Green
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I am happy to assure the hon. Lady and everyone else in London that the amount of money going to Victim Support in London is going up, not down, as it is in every other region of the country. More money will go to victims’ services under this Government than under the previous arrangements.

Sadiq Khan Portrait Sadiq Khan (Tooting) (Lab)
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The right hon. Gentleman is usually a thoughtful and intelligent Minister and he will be aware that we already have a variety of codes of practice and charters for victims scattered across different Government agencies. Like him, I meet victims of crime all the time and they complain that the codes are toothless and offer no means of redress if their entitlements are breached. How will the new code differ and how will he measure success?

Damian Green Portrait Damian Green
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It will differ in a number of ways. First, the new code is written so that victims will be able to understand it—I am sure that the right hon. Gentleman will agree that the previous code was not written in that way, as it was written by and for professionals. Secondly, there are specific rights in the code that were not in the previous code, such as the very important right for a victim to be able to make their personal statement in court after the sentence. Many victims have said that that is a significant step forward in enabling them to feel that they are being taken more seriously than they have been before.

Annette Brooke Portrait Annette Brooke (Mid Dorset and North Poole) (LD)
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7. What plans he has to review sentencing for causing death by dangerous driving.

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David Burrowes Portrait Mr David Burrowes (Enfield, Southgate) (Con)
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16. What recent steps he has taken to support victims of crime.

Damian Green Portrait The Minister for Policing, Criminal Justice and Victims (Damian Green)
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This Government are committed to putting victims first and we will give victims a voice at every stage of the criminal justice system. It is crucial that victims receive the support and help they need to cope and, where possible, to recover. We are aiming to make up to £100 million available to support victims to recover, testing pre-trial cross-examination, considering how we might reduce the distress caused to victims by cross-examination in court and implementing the new victims code.

David Hanson Portrait Mr Hanson
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Most people I speak to think that the Victims’ Commissioner should be a full-time post. Why is it not?

Damian Green Portrait Damian Green
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The Victims’ Commissioner is doing admirable work. She is supporting the Government and she is capable of doing the work very well. I am already enjoying working with her to ensure that she continues to represent the interests of victims very well.

David Burrowes Portrait Mr Burrowes
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Can the Minister give me an update on the progress in providing funds for victims from prisoner earnings, which not only fulfilled an important manifesto commitment, but upheld the principle that criminals should pay victims for their crimes, not least when as prisoners they are earning?

Damian Green Portrait Damian Green
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My hon. Friend raises an important point. Part of the extra money that is going to support victims in London and elsewhere comes from the proceeds of the Prisoners’ Earnings Act 1996. I am happy to tell him that whereas in 2011-12 some £332,000 went to Victim Support from this source, in 2013-14 the sum will be £825,000—more than two and a half times as much.

Dan Jarvis Portrait Dan Jarvis (Barnsley Central) (Lab)
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Victims of domestic abuse are placed at risk when forced to give their safe address in open court in unrelated proceedings. That not only places the individual at risk from the abuser, but deters the thousands of victims who suffer from domestic violence from reporting this horrendous crime. Does the Minister support Eve’s law, which seeks to address that anomaly, and will he work with the campaign to ensure its implementation in law?

Damian Green Portrait Damian Green
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I will happily consider that. The hon. Gentleman makes a reasonable point. It is for the judge to decide in each individual case, and it is not for Ministers at the Dispatch Box to decide what judges do in each individual case. We are already taking a range of steps to protect people who may be victims of domestic violence, and I am always happy to look at others.

Andrew George Portrait Andrew George (St Ives) (LD)
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On a similar point, the families of victims of capital crimes, as well as coping with bereavement, will usually be unaware of their rights and the responsibilities of authorities to assist them in protecting the memory, reputation, estate and so on of the deceased. What assessment has my right hon. Friend made of the support available to victims’ families in such circumstances?

Damian Green Portrait Damian Green
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I think I know the case to which my hon. Friend is referring, as he and I have discussed it in Westminster Hall. He will be aware that I wrote to him on 4 December on the detailed issue. Victims of all kinds require support and are getting better support. As he knows, the specific issues related to cases such as he describes are being considered at present.

David Mowat Portrait David Mowat (Warrington South) (Con)
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9. What assessment he has made of the potential for further savings to the public purse from the justice system.

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Lord Field of Birkenhead Portrait Mr Frank Field (Birkenhead) (Lab)
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10. How many young people currently in young offenders institutions and specialist children’s homes are being held on human trafficking offences.

Damian Green Portrait The Minister for Policing, Criminal Justice and Victims (Damian Green)
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From 2008 to 2012, no children and young people were sentenced to custody for human trafficking as the principal offence. This Government are committed to combating human trafficking. On Monday we published the draft Modern Slavery Bill to strengthen our response and to underpin the work of law enforcement agencies.

Lord Field of Birkenhead Portrait Mr Field
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As the Lord Chief Justice has ruled that victims of slavery should not be prosecuted for crimes they undertake under the direction of their slave owners, will the Minister undertake an audit of young people in offender institutions to establish how many are there, even if they have been charged under a lesser crime, in order to see whether their cases should be reviewed?

Damian Green Portrait Damian Green
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Yes, as part of the extra work we are doing under the aegis of the draft Modern Slavery Bill, to which the right hon. Gentleman has contributed significantly, we are obviously looking at the individual effects on those who might have been victims of trafficking and enslavement. He makes a perfectly valid point.

Fiona Bruce Portrait Fiona Bruce (Congleton) (Con)
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11. How his Department’s funding for restorative justice is being disbursed.

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Graeme Morrice Portrait Graeme Morrice (Livingston) (Lab)
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15. What steps he is taking to support victims of domestic violence.

Damian Green Portrait The Minister for Policing, Criminal Justice and Victims (Damian Green)
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Domestic violence is a dreadful form of abuse and is not acceptable within our society. The Government are committed to providing greater protection to victims of all forms of violence, and their approach to domestic violence and abuse is set out in the violence against women and girls action plan, updated in 2013.

Graeme Morrice Portrait Graeme Morrice
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Last week’s report by the Joint Committee on Human Rights on the Government’s legal aid cuts said:

“We are particularly worried about the impact of the residence test on vulnerable groups such as children or victims of domestic violence.”

Will the Minister tell the House exactly how much will be saved by taking away legal aid from sufferers of domestic violence affected by the residence test, and explain what victims are expected to do if these plans strip them of the option of legal aid?

Damian Green Portrait Damian Green
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The Government have left in place all the exemptions in the Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Act 2012 to ensure that the most vulnerable continue to receive legal aid. Beyond that, we have ring-fenced nearly £40 million for specialist local domestic and sexual violence support services. That, together with specialist domestic violence courts, provides a better specialist way of dealing with this terrible abuse.

Andrew Jones Portrait Andrew Jones (Harrogate and Knaresborough) (Con)
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17. What steps he is taking to tackle rogue payment protection insurance claim companies and nuisance calling by those companies.

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Tony Baldry Portrait Sir Tony Baldry (Banbury) (Con)
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18. What steps he is taking to reduce the use of cautions for repeat offences.

Damian Green Portrait The Minister for Policing, Criminal Justice and Victims (Damian Green)
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Cautioning for repeat offenders is unacceptable and does not deliver justice for victims. That is why we have acted to ensure that criminals should no longer receive a second caution for the same, or a similar, offence committed in a two-year period.

Tony Baldry Portrait Sir Tony Baldry
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I thank my right hon. Friend for that answer. In addition to stopping the use of repeat cautions, does he agree that there are some offences for which, in any event, the use of a caution is simply not appropriate?

Damian Green Portrait Damian Green
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I do agree; my right hon. Friend makes an extremely important and valid point. That is why we concluded after the simple cautions review that cautions should not be used for any offence that can be tried only in the Crown court. Indeed, going further than that, certain offences that can be tried either in the Crown court or in a magistrates court are also not suitable for cautions, including, in particular, possession of a knife.

Andrew Selous Portrait Andrew Selous (South West Bedfordshire) (Con)
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19. What steps he is taking to ensure that no prisoner leaves prison unable to read.

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John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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I must tell the Secretary of State that I have visited the prison myself, but sadly it was 13 years ago. I am sure it is even better now than it was then. [Interruption.] No, I did so in my capacity as a shadow Minister. [Laughter.]

Damian Green Portrait The Minister for Policing, Criminal Justice and Victims (Damian Green)
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The whole House is relieved to hear that, Mr Speaker!

John Pugh Portrait John Pugh (Southport) (LD)
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22. What assessment he has made of trends in the number of cracked trials.

Damian Green Portrait The Minister for Policing, Criminal Justice and Victims (Damian Green)
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The number and proportion of trials which crack and the reasons for this is reported by the Ministry of Justice in quarterly court statistics. As part of the Government’s criminal justice strategy and action plan, Her Majesty’s Courts and Tribunals Service is working with the Crown Prosecution Service and the judiciary to improve performance in the summary justice system, including reducing the volume of cracked trials.

John Pugh Portrait John Pugh
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Has the number of cracked trials been in any way influenced by the reduction in the number of courts and court access?

Damian Green Portrait Damian Green
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No. The cracked trial rate in magistrates courts has remained fairly stable—between 43% and 45%—since 2006. I am happy to report that the rate in the Crown court has been falling steadily—from 43% in the third quarter of 2010 to 36% in the second quarter of 2013—so progress is being made.

Tom Blenkinsop Portrait Tom Blenkinsop (Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland) (Lab)
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T1. If he will make a statement on his departmental responsibilities.

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David Burrowes Portrait Mr David Burrowes (Enfield, Southgate) (Con)
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T4. The Secretary of State will be aware that, following a spate of knife attacks in Enfield, my hon. Friend the Member for Enfield North (Nick de Bois) and I led a successful campaign to toughen up the knife laws. After the killing in my constituency of Joshua Folkes just two weeks ago from a knife attack, will the Secretary of State ensure that the law shows greater intolerance of those carrying a knife?

Damian Green Portrait The Minister for Policing, Criminal Justice and Victims (Damian Green)
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The whole House will share my hon. Friend’s horror at the death of his constituent in a knife crime, and I pay tribute to my hon. Friend for his dedication to tackling that particular social scourge. He will know that the Government have recently created a mandatory prison sentence for threatening someone with a knife, and as I have just said to my right hon. Friend the Member for Banbury (Sir Tony Baldry), we are ending the use of cautioning for possession of a knife. Knife crime is falling, but we will of course consider any further changes that will continue that welcome fall.

Kerry McCarthy Portrait Kerry McCarthy (Bristol East) (Lab)
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T2. Bristol city council and Barnardo’s have just launched a charter for the children of prisoners, which is intended to prevent young people in such a situation from enduring their own hidden sentence and to reduce the impact of a parent’s imprisonment on their educational attainment, emotional development and behaviour. What support is the Justice Secretary giving to such initiatives, and will he review how his Department can help the 1,300 children in Bristol and the close to 200,000 children in England and Wales in such a situation?

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Debbie Abrahams Portrait Debbie Abrahams (Oldham East and Saddleworth) (Lab)
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A few weeks ago I attended a public forum on domestic violence, where I was told that specialist domestic violence courts were being closed and that support for domestic violence victims to bring their case to court was being restricted. Why do the Government find it acceptable to deny the most vulnerable access to justice?

Damian Green Portrait Damian Green
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This Government have done more than any previous Government to give victims of domestic violence access to justice, and we are continuing to improve how such people, normally women, are treated in the operations of both the courts system and the police. As I said earlier, we have backed up that commitment with £40 million of ring-fenced money.

Jackie Doyle-Price Portrait Jackie Doyle-Price (Thurrock) (Con)
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Theft and vandalism against small businesses costs jobs. Will my right hon. Friend confirm that his changes to the victims code will mean that courts can take into account the economic consequence of crime from now on?