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Tuesday 6th May 2025

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Wes Streeting Portrait Rt Hon Wes Streeting MP, Secretary of State for Health and Social Care (Ilford North, Labour)
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Thank you Mr Speaker. Unity hospitals can reduce pressure on major hospitals especially in rural committees like mine. Will the Secretary of State lay out his plans of how he intends to support

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community hospitals in South Shropshire? Mr Speaker, at the heart of this government's approach is investment government's approach is investment and reform of the NHS to make sure we deliver better outcomes for patients. That means the biggest patients. That means the biggest devolution of power in the history of the NHS with more decisions taken closer to patients and their closer to patients and their communities, indeed more power in the hands of patients. Community hospitals do have a vital role to hospitals do have a vital role to play, and no doubt thanks to the play, and no doubt thanks to the decisions taken by this government to put £26 billion more into NHS, we

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to put £26 billion more into NHS, we will be able to make further and faster progress, opposed by the party opposite. Thank you Mr Speaker. In my constituency, there is an ageing population and need of local healthcare services. Will the healthcare services. Will the Secretary of State meet with the Scottish counterpart to discuss the need for increased access to need for increased access to committee healthcare, specifically the need for a new health and care

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centre within my constituency? I'm grateful to her for the question for them she will be delighted to know that last week I met with my counterpart in Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland, to look at how we can work together to improve healthcare throughout the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. She will be aware that health is devolved but thanks to decisions taken by this Labour to decisions taken by this Labour government, the Scottish government has just delivered the biggest has just delivered the biggest financial settlement to them since devolution began.

They might finally devolution began. They might finally make some progress on their waiting lists, where one in six Scots are on a waiting list, and the SNP ran to their fifth NHS reform plan in four years. years. years.
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Wes Streeting Portrait Rt Hon Wes Streeting MP, Secretary of State for Health and Social Care (Ilford North, Labour)
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reform has cut within this by over 200,000. Perhaps the honourable member will tell us how it is going in Scotland. The Secretary of State claims

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The Secretary of State claims what BBC radio four 'Today', that what BBC radio four 'Today', that Labour are the only party that can be trusted with the NHS. Kindly confirm that no aspect whatsoever of the NHS, whether the state, specialist services, any other form of privatisation, will be included in the deal between the UK and US. No more excuses, Secretary of State. Just give a direct answer to a direct question. Speak the NHS will be privatised over my dead body.

be privatised over my dead body. This party funded the NHS as a publicly funded service, free at the point of use. We have cut waiting point of use. We have cut waiting lists and the SNP-led government does the same thing in Scotland and does the same thing in Scotland and we've made it clear the NHS is not up for sale in any trade deal and that is clear and unequivocal. He that is clear and unequivocal. He can sling mud but he cannot run from can sling mud but he cannot run from the NHS's abysmal record on the NHS of 18 long years.

of 18 long years. GPs are at the front door of the NHS. We are supported over 1000 surgeries across the country to surgeries across the country to modernise buildings, backed by £102 million, the biggest investment in million, the biggest investment in five years, following use of neglect. The federal funding will create additional funding to see more patients, boost productivity, more patients, boost productivity, improve patient care, and enable it million more family appointments each year. each year. I welcome the announcement of refurbishing 1000 across the country because our local GPs have been telling me that health centres need more physical space to accommodate healthier in the community so will the Secretary of State meet with me and GPs to discuss bringing care

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closer to people's homes. Since we came into government we made the announcement today, we put
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Dan Jarvis Portrait Dan Jarvis MP, The Minister of State, Home Department (Barnsley North, Labour)
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such arrangements, this government is clear that staff must be in receipt of goods NHS terms and conditions. This is part of the NHS workforce and part of NHS family, I

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would be happy to receive further representations from them. That complete questions, let the

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That complete questions, let the We now come We now come to We now come to the We now come to the statement. Minister of State Dan Jarvis.

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Minister of State Dan Jarvis. With permission Mr Speaker I will make a statement on the series of national security -related arrests national security -related arrests took place on Saturday third of May. took place on Saturday third of May. Protecting our national security the first duty of government. It is a testament to our world leading law enforcement and intelligence services that through their tireless commitment, so many plots against commitment, so many plots against the UK have been thwarted. I want to be tribute to them again today, for the work that they have done, not the work that they have done, not just this weekend but in recent weeks and months on these important weeks and months on these important The two operations that took place across multiple locations this weekend were significant and complex.

Some of the largest counterterrorism actions to state threats we have seen in recent times and I'm sure the whole House will join with me in thanking the police, security services and other partner agencies across the country who should professionalism and expertise in carrying out these operations to keep the country safe. Honourable and right honourable members will understand these investigations are complex and police and security services need time and place to pursue those investigations and the first priority is to protect the integrity of the works will be do not cut across those investigations and operations at a crucial time.

These are serious matters and the House will rightly want to remain in House will rightly want to remain in from. I will outline this with as much detail as I am able to and I hope members will understand the strict limit to what I can say at this stage given investigations are ongoing. I would like to outline the facts surrounding the incident on May 3. Me 38 men in total were arrested by the counterterrorism force and five were arrested on suspicion of preparation of a terrorist act contrary to Section 5 of the 2006 Terrorism Act, as part of our proactive investigation in west London, Swindon, Rochdale, Stockport, Manchester.

All five men were Iranian nationals. Four individuals remain in police custody. The fifth has now been bailed with strict conditions. As part of the investigation, police officers carried out searches at a number of addresses in the greater Manchester, London, Swindon areas. Investigations continue with searches and activity underway at multiple addresses across the country. The investigation relates to a suspected plot to target specific premises. Police officers have been in contact with the affected site to make them aware and provide relevant security advice and support.

However, police have been clear that for reasons of operational security and public safety, the are not and I am not able to provide further information on the target at this time and I would urge members not to speculate on the site. In a separate police investigation, two men were arrested at different addresses in north-west London and one man was arrested at an address in west London and all three were arrested under the National Security Act of 2023 and they were also Iranian nationals at the three men remain in police custody.

I can confirm these are the custody. I can confirm these are the first Iranian nationals arrested under the National Security Act. Operations to execute the arrest under counterterror and Canto states that powers in different parts of the country or intensive. -- Counter state threat. They involve different police forces, counterterrorism police, the National Crime Agency and security and intelligence services. The operations were coordinated through the world leading Counterterrorism Operations Centre which brings together and coordinates UK agencies alongside agencies of our partners to detect and tackle national security threats.

I welcome the work of the previous government to establish CTOC in 2021 and the government has supported and invested since taking office. The significant point is that they allow the police to intervene early to prevent and disrupt threats and not just respond after events have taken place. This is crucial for public safety and makes investigations more complex and that is why they need time and space to pursue them now so we do not have concerns about the work they are doing.

What follows is an incredibly complex set of investigations involving hundreds more officers carrying out forensic services and collecting vital evidence across different sites across the country and securing with statements, backed up by the continued efforts of our security and intelligence services. This is careful and painstaking work. At this stage in the operation and investigation, it would not be appropriate for me to speculate on or comment further on the details of these cases or the motivations behind any threats that were imposed.

The House will be aware that these operations come against the backdrop of complex interconnected threats to the UK and that state threats and counterterrorism as well as serious and organised crime are intertwined together. For 20 years, the greatest focus of our national security was on terrorism and summarily from Islamist terrorism with additional threats from Northern Ireland and other areas and those threats have not gone away. 15 terrorist attacks have taken place since 2017 with 43 late-stage disruptions of terrorism plots.

Alongside that, there has been a serious increase in the complex challenge of state threats and last year the director-general and last year the director-general of MI5 so can said it had increased by 45% actually added that since 2022, police and MI5 responded to 20 W backed by Iran presenting threats that are potentially lethal. -- 20 plots. There is malign activity carried out by a number of states. Maesteg and outline the government response to the unacceptable threat that we face of the Iranian state and the steps we are taking to make sure we have the tools needed to disrupt and degrade malign activities and we have delivered on the commitments made.

I announce the call Iranian state including the IRGC will be placed on the enhanced PR of the scheme and eyelid legislation to make this happen I am committed to bringing this into committed to bringing this into play. I trust all members will vote when the legislation is forward. Anyone in the UK that works for the Iranian state must be clear it. If not, they will be committing a serious offence. The government sanctioned the Foxtrot Network last month, network involved in violence on behalf of the Iranian regime.

And there is trading offered to all 45 territorial policies across the UK and the independent review are and the independent review are Jonathan Hall KC was asked to review parts of the framework which could be applied to threats in Iran. We have been specifically asked to look at a tool so were not held back with counterterrorism legislation to state threats. Jonathan Hall will publish his review shortly. The government will not hesitate to take action in response to the advice.

As we continue to support police investigations, I can tell the House that the Home Secretary has instigated a series of security assessments which are being done or refreshed in light of the cases this weekend and the further information surrounding them. This will ensure the government can respond vastly and comprehensively to wider national security issues raised by these cases. Working alongside international allies in countering state threats essential to success and the Foreign Office are engaging with closest allies to outline disruptive action taking place and we will consider potential future response options as the investigation progresses.

The Home Secretary remains in close contact with my right honourable friend the Foreign Secretary who I know is committed to doing everything necessary to protect the country from the threats and bring to bear all the diplomatic tools at our disposal. The Home Secretary disposal. The Home Secretary administers will provide -- and ministers will update the national security position when we are able to do so, following these investigations at the wider security assessments which are underway. The government will not hesitate to act in a robust manner to respond to these plots at the appropriate time.

First, we must allow investigations to continue with police, security to continue with police, security and intelligence agencies which are the best in the world and we stand ready at all times to take action to keep the country safe and I am sure keep the country safe and I am sure they will have the support of the whole house as they continue this whole house as they continue this vital work. I commit this statement to the House.
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Matt Vickers Portrait Matt Vickers MP (Stockton West, Conservative)
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I would like to thank the Minister for providing an advance statement on this critical issue and people will have read the report suggesting the attack may have been I was away and it would have been worrying to people across the country and the statement reminds us of the tragic incidents that have plagued the country and this month marks 12 years since the death of Lee Rigby on our streets and eight years since the horrific Manchester Arena bombing and later this year we had the 20th anniversary of the 7/7 attacks which brought a level of destruction to London we never thought we would see in our lifetimes.

These acts of terror along with other cowardly acts cause untold to victims and families and as we discussed the arrest of the past weekend, we must remember the importance of keeping the public safe from those who seek to terrorise us and I pay tribute to the hard-working members of the police and intelligence services for bravery in disrupting terrorist activities. In October, the head of MI5 said that the police and MI5 had disrupt did 43 late stage attack plot since the Manchester bombing and we must remember each case is not merely a statistic but represents someone's life and future and I commend the Minister for recognising the work of the previous government and acknowledging the measures which produced effectively in the incident and I know that we will support these measures and give the government the power is needed to act against malign influences on the country and turning to the incidents at hand, I would be grateful if you Minister to clarify certain points.

I'm thankful for the statement but I hope the government will, moving forward, be as transparent as possible about the details to avoid the information vacuum we previously discussed in this place. I appreciate the government does not want to provide running commentary, I and I am sure many other members would be grateful if you could be as grateful as possible given the seriousness of the arrest. There were two separate arrest of the really nationals -- Iranian nationals. This raises questions about heavy networks were formed and what the intentions were.

Can the Minister provide further information about the suspects. We know that they were Iranian nationals. What is the status? Was the state aware that they were in the UK or was there prior indication of risk that they might pose? I understand the Minister might not be able to comment directly but the Home Secretary addressed this in opposition and in July 2023, she told the Royal United Services Institute, up it was Instead of Institute, up it was Instead of Institute of the Wagner Group, we will address these threats." It was also said that it wanted appropriately targeted prescription-style restrictions on the operations of organisations such the operations of organisations such as the IRGC.

However, it was in as the IRGC. However, it was in March of this year the Security Minister announced the review by Minister announced the review by Jonathan Hall. The Minister sure my concerns that the mixed signals and delay suggest a lack of prioritisation from the government? We must work together to ensure the UK adopt the strongest possible UK adopt the strongest possible stance on national security. Cross- stance on national security. Cross- party corporation is essential and I urge the government to take every possible step to prevent these possible step to prevent these
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Dan Jarvis Portrait Dan Jarvis MP, The Minister of State, Home Department (Barnsley North, Labour)
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Can I thank the shadow Secretary of State for the constructive and reasonable tone. Can I say he is right to draw the attention of the House to the tragic death of Lee Rigby. The tragic bombing in Manchester, and of course the 20th anniversary of the 77 bombings that anniversary of the 77 bombings that we will be commemorating shortly. Let me join him in thanking all those who work tirelessly to keep our country safe. It is one of the biggest privileges of this particular role that we have the opportunity to serve in government, as numbers opposite will have done also, and work closely alongside those incredibly committed members of the police and intelligence services.

I think we owed them a debt of gratitude. I'm also grateful for the opportunity because he raised it again, to offer our thanks for the work that was done by the previous government, both in terms of the introduction of the National Security Act, which has proved to be an incredibly valuable tool, but also, I referenced it, of CTOC which is delivering very significant operational value. I absolutely give an assurance that this government will continue to invest in that institution, as the previous government did as well.

I thought he made an important point about transparency. And I can absolutely give the reassurances that he seeks. He will understand, and the House will understand, we are just a couple of days on from these arrests taking place on Saturday. The Home Secretary will provide a further update as soon as we are operationally able to do so. And I give him a commitment that we will be as transparent as we possibly can, whilst of course ensuring that we do not cut across live counterterrorism operations.

He mentioned proscription. I understand why he asked the question. I know that he will acknowledge, or at least I hope you will, that on 4 March, I announced a very strong suite of measures designed to most effectively address the nature of the threat that we face from Iran. Contained within those measures announced on 3 March was a request from the Home Secretary for Jonathan Hall, who I know is held in very high regard, because of the experience and credibility that he has, to look very carefully at the legislative framework that might legislative framework that might enable us to more effectively proscribe state-based entities.

I proscribe state-based entities. I can confirm that he has completed his reports. The Home Secretary and I are considering it very carefully. I are considering it very carefully. It will be published shortly. And I give an assurance that we will not hesitate to act where there is a requirement to bring forward.
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Lisa Smart Portrait Lisa Smart MP (Hazel Grove, Liberal Democrat)
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I think the honourable member raises a very important point. I can give him the assurances that we seek, the government has been very carefully considering the matter of transnational oppression. We will have more to say about it in the near future. I can give an absolute assurance that we have been thinking carefully about these matters. Take them incredibly seriously. Home Secretary Julian Knight will have more to say in the near future.

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Thank you Mr Speaker. I want to thank the Minister for advanced sight of his statement and for sight of his statement and for updating the house this afternoon. I also want to add my thanks to the security services and the police for security services and the police for all their work to keep us safe. Over recent years, this House has been called into the chamber to discuss plots to commit acts of terror on plots to commit acts of terror on plots to commit acts of terror on At the hands of the Iranian regime.

Yet consecutive governments have yet to proscribe the Iranian Revolutionary Guard corp as a terrorist organisation. In opposition the now foreign secretary opposition the now foreign secretary said that the IRGC is behaving like a terrorist organisation. And must now be prescribed as such. Earlier this year I asked the Minister this year I asked the Minister precisely this question. Does the Minister not agree that now is surely the time? Some of his earlier remarks, the Minister mentioned remarks, the Minister mentioned review that is concluded. If now is not the time for prescription when should the house expect it? The liberal democrats are welcomed previous sanctions against those linked to the Iranian regime.

However, I must urge the government to go a step further look closely at whether these individuals and others have assets here in the UK. Will the have assets here in the UK. Will the Minister commit to carrying out an audit so we know where those assets audit so we know where those assets are, enabling the government to freeze them as appropriate? The Minister is right to reference long-standing pattern of targeting people of Jewish faith and Israeli nationality. Could the Minister nationality.

Could the Minister update the house and any conversations he has had with the UK Jewish community leadership? And specifically the CST, about threats here in the UK?
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Dan Jarvis Portrait Dan Jarvis MP, The Minister of State, Home Department (Barnsley North, Labour)
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Can I thank the honourable lady, for, as was the case, the sensible and reasonable way which has raised questions. Let me say I'm always available to discuss these matters in more detail if she wishes to do so. She asked about proscription. I hope she will acknowledge the response I gave to the Shadow Minister a few moments ago. We take these matters incredibly seriously. The Home Secretary and I looked at these matters very closely in opposition. That is precisely why Home Secretary commissioned Jonathan Hall.

He is the right person to look very carefully at a legislative framework and make recommendations are about whether frankly we can toughen and strengthen the laws that we have in this particular area. Mr Hall has now completed his written report. Looking very closely at it. It will be published shortly. As I said to the Shadow Minister, we will not hesitate to bring forward further measures as they are required. She made I thought an important and helpful point about sanctions and assets.

I know that is a question that will have been heard by the foreign office minister, with whom we work incredibly carefully. We work hard to ensure that our response is always joined up across government as it possibly can be. The Home Secretary works very closely with the Foreign Secretary. And I work closely with the Minister on these matters. We will consider whether there are further measures needed to be taken. The final point was an important one about the Jewish community. I give her and the whole house an absolute commitment that we will work tirelessly to that we will work tirelessly to ensure the safety of the Jewish committee in our country.

The Home committee in our country. The Home Secretary and I and other ministers are in regular contact with members of that community including the CST of that community including the CST that she reference who do an excellent job. I will be meeting in the future but she can be reassured the future but she can be reassured we will work closely with them to ensure they not only get the protection that they need and protection that they need and deserve but assurances that it will be the right ones as well.

be the right ones as well. I would like to pay tribute to the bravery and professionalism of the counterterrorism specialists took part in the arrest of an Iranian national in Rochdale over the weekend. It was a reminder of the constant threat that we face. Also of the intelligence and the police service daily work to keep us all safe. Does the Minister agree that in this week of the 80th anniversary of VE day, it is a reminder that Britain is at war with fascism, Islamist extremism, and state-sponsored terrorism.

The message to go out loud and clear that my town, our country, and this house never surrender to such terrorism or to its ideology. terrorism or to its ideology.
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Dan Jarvis Portrait Dan Jarvis MP, The Minister of State, Home Department (Barnsley North, Labour)
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I thank him for the points that he makes. He is right about the chilling effect of the arrests and it underlines the nature of the threat not being specific to any one part of the country and he pressed me on my earlier point with regard to prescription and Jonathan Hall, as I said previously, is someone of great credibility and authority and he was asked to look carefully at he was asked to look carefully at the legislative framework to assess if there are stronger powers needed if there are stronger powers needed to prescribe these threats.

He has to prescribe these threats. He has worked at pace and has submitted this report to the Home Secretary this report to the Home Secretary and I. As I have said previously, and I. As I have said previously, the government will respond in due course and I know the Home Secretary course and I know the Home Secretary will update the House at the earliest available moment. The security minister will now that the Jewish community in Britain have reason to be fearful.

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the safety in the UK? I'm grateful to him for the point

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I'm grateful to him for the point he has made and I give him my categorical assurance that this categorical assurance that this government, as was the case with the previous government, we will work previous government, we will work closely with the Jewish community to provide them with assurances that they want and deserve. It is
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Jim Shannon Portrait Jim Shannon MP (Strangford, Democratic Unionist Party)
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know but we are not going to get into a running commentary but I have made very clear commitment that the Home Secretary will come back at the earliest available opportunity and respond to questions that are put to her, but we will not cut across a live police operation. Honourable members opposite will never rightly forgive us for doing so. We are not going to do it but we will provide as much information as we possibly can as a point where it does not compromise on operations.



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Can I think the Minister very much for his wise words, his competent words, words that everyone of us in this house wishes to have. of us in this house wishes to have. In all my times in this chamber, I have been a supporter of the Iranians die aspera. Those who live Iranians die aspera. Those who live in the United Kingdom and fled Iran in the United Kingdom and fled Iran because of the threats, people getting out by the skin of their teeth, they have genuine fears and concerns about what happens, and those concerns have been expressed those concerns have been expressed by some of those who have been under some attack in France but also in some attack in France but also in Sweden.

During the last election, Sweden. During the last election, that diaspora offered support to me and my election campaign and I took and my election campaign and I took advantage of that as others did as well. What concerns me those members who feel threatened as well. When it comes to offering the support and the protection that they need, that the protection that they need, that will involve the partnership in the Republic of Ireland to ensure that the threat will not come from within Northern Ireland but could come from the Republic of Ireland, so will the the Republic of Ireland, so will the Minister give me and my constituents and those who are committed to a and those who are committed to a change of the regime in Iran but you cannot return because the regime is so decadent and so violent.
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Douglas Alexander Portrait Rt Hon Douglas Alexander MP, Minister of State (Department for Business and Trade) (Lothian East, Labour )
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Thank you. I wish to make a statement on the progress made towards a trade deal. I am delighted to inform the house that we have now concluded negotiations on a comprehensive modern agreement with the fastest-growing economy in the G 20. Honourable members will be aware that India is expected to be the third largest economy in the world by 2028. By the end of this decade, it will be home to an estimated 60 million middle-class consumers and with trade between the United Kingdom and India already standing north of £43 billion, we know this powerhouse economy is and will remain a hugely important market for British businesses.

While past governments have failed to negotiate a deal with India, this government has today succeeded, and they brokered the most generous trade deal ever agreed by India in its history. From day one of this deal, it will make trade between our countries cheaper, easier and quicker. UK exports will benefit from much more tariffs across a whole host of different sectors including those we are prioritising in the industrial strategy. It means customs processes for businesses and manufacturing, in airspace, food and beverages, and there are sectors which will benefit from copyright protection.

And for our financial and professional services companies, this deal locks and access to the fast-growing market. It will ensure that UK companies are placed on an equal footing in Indian suppliers. It also encourages the recognition of qualifications so that you can Indian firms can access things at the right time whether they are in Mumbai or Manchester. This deal will allow opportunities in every part of the United Kingdom, the iconic Scottish whiskey brands and car plants in the West Midlands.

We will have secured over £400 million in tariff reductions in the first year alone doubling to around £900 million after just 10 years. Crucially, the deal we have negotiated will also offer support for SMEs to enter the market alongside a firm commitment from India to address the trade barriers that these businesses face. Since taking office, we have looked at interests of small businesses into everything we do and the deal we everything we do and the deal we They will bid for tenders.

The They will bid for tenders. The deal we have just got over the line is further proof that this government is using the power of international trade and investment to raise living standards here at home. We will boost bilateral trade by some £25.5 billion. There will also increase wages by £2.2 billion each year while adding nearly £5 million to GDP over the long run. And we have done all of this while defending stoutly the U.K.'s national interest. We have brokered a deal for food standards.

The points-based immigration remains unaffected. This demonstrates workers and businesses staying true to values while contributing to our primary mission of economic growth. I recognise that this house will need time to scrutinise this deal before the ratification process. My department will follow what was set out in the Constitutional reform act 2010 in sharing the finalised treaty text with honourable members. The house will have the opportunity to scrutinise any legislation associated with its implementation. This deal defends and sends a powerful message about the U.K.'s and India's shared commitment to The relationship has deep, enduring roots.

While I don't personally regret the honourable member for Richmond is still the Prime Minister but I should mention his achievement. For this government's achievement. For this government's part, we are proud to back markets and free trade. We recognise that Britain has always been outward,
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Harriett Baldwin Portrait Dame Harriett Baldwin MP (West Worcestershire, Conservative)
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open mouth open, outward -looking Our strategy will involve engaging Our strategy will involve engaging with more industrial giants. Today I am proud that we have secured this am proud that we have secured this deal with India. A deal that affords UK businesses certainty and stability during a time of global stability during a time of global uncertainty and instability. The deal will give British businesses access to 1 of our biggest markets abroad, well raising wages and driving growth here at home.

That is driving growth here at home. That is what this deal delivers and I commend this statement to the house. commend this statement to the house. Speak a mag shadow minister. Wrong

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We We haven't We haven't seen We haven't seen the We haven't seen the my We haven't seen the my new We haven't seen the my new show and therefore will reserve and therefore will reserve judgement. I would like to take this opportunity to highlight some questions. First of all, what concessions did the government make concessions did the government make that its predecessor was not willing to make to get the deal over the to make to get the deal over the line? Secondly, I was shocked that there was a significant piece of there was a significant piece of information left out of the Minister statement today, which we only found statement today, which we only found out from the statement of the Indian government.

The Indian Minister make government. The Indian Minister make a point of announcing the agreement of a double contribution convention between India and the UK, and yet between India and the UK, and yet the Minister today has made not even a passing reference to it in his statement or his press release. A statement or his press release. A double contribution convention will come at a significant cost to the British taxpayer and to British businesses. It means workers who have entered into the UK under this convention are eligible to only pay national insurance contributions in their home country, in this case India.

Now, we only know it from the press release that this exemption from national insurance contributions for Indian workers will be for three years. Does that mean that Indian workers currently in Britain will get a refund from HMRC, or does it mean that new Indian workers will not pay any contributions in the first place? Did the Exchequer effectively give away a massive subsidy to get this tree deal over the line? Will it really be 20% cheaper for businesses in the UK to hire Indian workers than British workers? Will this convention only apply to seconded employees of Indian companies, or will it apply more broadly to all Indian workers in the UK, and if so, from one? How many additional work visas will be made under this agreement Indian workers? And would this convention really mean that an Indian owned restaurant chain could pay their chef no national insurance here, well the British public pays for national insurance for their curry chef? Will this deal reduce the incentive for the Indian millionaires who are currently a subset of the many millionaires who are fleeing the UK for tax reasons, will it reduce the incentive for any Indian millionaires to do that? So can the Minister outline what the cost is of this agreement on the Treasury? How many British nationals does the government anticipate making use of these reciprocal rights in India? Because I fear we have gone from two tier Keir to two tier taxes Keir.

I'm also aware that India has expressed concerns about the UK becoming a rule taker to the EU. To the Minister tell us what assurance have been made on that matter? And while we are these matter? And while we are these benches would never talk down the benefits of the terms, agreements benefits of the terms, agreements have to be fair to both parties. As it stands, this deal looks like it is subsidising Indian labour were undercutting British workers. Can the government backed our domestic the government backed our domestic market by scrapping its job tax? I look forward to hearing from the Minister in answer to these questions, with a reply that actually answers them.

If he chooses, as he sometimes does come chooses, as he sometimes does come at a better way genuine questions, with -- could he follow-up in writing?
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Douglas Alexander Portrait Rt Hon Douglas Alexander MP, Minister of State (Department for Business and Trade) (Lothian East, Labour )
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Minister. landmark deal. I have to say it wasn't her most generous welcome for a deal that was right to recognise the last government did not manage the last government did not manage to close the most difficult remaining issues. I seem to remember it was a former leader of the Conservative party, the former member for Witney, who promised the Conservative party would stop banging on about Europe. This advice seems to not have been taken. She enquired how we got the deal done in relation to what our predecessors failed to do.

Respectively, I would say it was a shouldn't -- a process that was patient. It was a contrast to the Instagram approach of previous trade Minister. That allowed us to be able to reach a considered judgement that went the stability of political leadership with clear and ministerial direction, we were able to secure concessions from the Indians and conclude the agreement in a way that eluded our predecessors. She asked about the double contribution convention. That is a reciprocal agreement which will benefit UK workers and their employers as the opportunity within India expense.

India will be one of the world's largest middle classes in the coming decades. The agreement will only cover a very specific and limited group of Indian businesspeople for a period of three years. There are other arrangements in place by the Indians that extend beyond that which is worth recognises. The workers will be required to pay their immigration health surcharge so as to not affect NHS funding. The agreement is reciprocal and will benefit workers in India as well. India is home to the fastest growth rate in the G20 so the opportunity here for the United Kingdom is only likely to grow over time.

The agreement was made in the context of the wider deal, which will bring billions into the UK economy. I can also assure the noble -- honourable lady that there are social security agreements in place with a range of countries and trading blocs, including the European Union and the United States. On the broader issue of immigration that she raises, I can assure her that the deal does not affect the points-based system. The points-based system is not affected by the agreement that we struck today.

The deal only covers business mobility, which is different to immigration, as it is about travel for specific and temporary business purposes. As a temporary business purposes. As a result, UK businesses will benefit from additional business mobility rates, supporting them as they expand into India. Student visas, for example, remained of the table. I hope that gives some clarity to the honourable lady. I'm grateful to the honourable lady. I'm grateful to her for recognition that the deal is her for recognition that the deal is Important to recognise that the party opposite sought to secure this day.

I hope the conversations we day. I hope the conversations we will have across the dispatch box today will be able to recognise this represents a very significant one for the United Kingdom and frankly for the United Kingdom and frankly very difficult times for trade. Thank you. The conclusion of the negotiations so this is a free to -- this free-trade agreement is a win for Scotland's economy. We also have a strong and growing digital services sector, particularly SMEs. I'd like to say a bit more about how the -- I would like to ask the Minister more about how this deal

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will help those? One of the commitments we made when we were both elected was that when we were both elected was that we would seek to ensure there was a we would seek to ensure there was a Labour government delivering for Scotland. If you look at the cut we
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Douglas Alexander Portrait Rt Hon Douglas Alexander MP, Minister of State (Department for Business and Trade) (Lothian East, Labour )
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ahead of the political summit. Let me try to address the various points that the Honourable gentleman points that the Honourable gentleman made. In relation to our attempt to reset a trading relationship with Europe, the red lines that were set Europe, the red lines that were set out in our manifesto were very clear but within those lines, we are endeavouring to broaden and deepen an important trading -- relationship. In relation to his brother observation that this is, if you like, are pretty bright shining you like, are pretty bright shining light, the UK India to deal we have reached today, I would agree with reached today, I would agree with him.

It is hopefully a sign of further deals to come and a commitment to taking forward the commitment to taking forward the kind of deals that are mutually beneficial, in this case for the
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Douglas Alexander Portrait Rt Hon Douglas Alexander MP, Minister of State (Department for Business and Trade) (Lothian East, Labour )
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The Minister just admitted that this agreement means the expansion of some visa schemes and the Indian government says that the FDA eases mobility for professionals, such as intra-corporate transfers and independent professionals like chefs. It also says that the new contribution convention creates a three exception from national insurance contributions for Indians working here. Can the Minister confirm that this agreement will confirm that this agreement will make Indian migrant workers in Britain cheaper to employ relative Britain cheaper to employ relative to British workers than they are today? Yes or no? today? Yes or no? The point based immigration system is not affected.

The UK is not giving away visas or created new routes as part of this deal. It is existing mobility rates that have been expanded for highly skilled and experienced professionals to cover additional sectors.

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Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I congratulate the Minister of securing this deal. The automotive securing this deal. The automotive sector in the West Midlands has been worried about increased tariffs with worried about increased tariffs with the US. So a deal with India is highly welcome. Can the Minister say highly welcome. Can the Minister say from my constituents who work in the automotive sector how this deal will benefit them?

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benefit them? I hope I can give my Honourable friend exactly that assurance. Unconscious there was an additional Unconscious there was an additional point I should have made in relation to steel, which is part of this agreement we have included a bilateral safeguard mechanism which bilateral safeguard mechanism which allows us to temporarily suspend or allows us to temporarily suspend or increase tariffs if they are seen as an injury. In relation to automotive
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Hamish Falconer Portrait Mr Hamish Falconer MP, Parliamentary Under-Secretary (Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office) (Lincoln, Labour)
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deal. When I was being briefed by officials, I asked for examples of the sectors where we would see the biggest benefits and she will be delighted to hear that Irn-Bru feature prominently in the description given to the Minister.

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With your permission, I will make a statement on the Middle East. Yesterday, Israeli Prime Minister Yesterday, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu announced that the security cabinets have approved a plan to expand and intensify Israel's military operations in Israel's military operations in Gaza. He said that the Israeli defence Force operations will extend defence Force operations will extend across more of Gaza. Tactics will no longer involve short roads with the longer involve short roads with the implication that Israel will hold the ground it takes.

Reports suggest that the plans could include full military occupation of the Gaza Strip. Prime Minister Netanyahu said that Gaza's population will be moved for its protection. Tens of thousands of reservists are being called up. In parallel, the security cabinet reportedly approved a plan to deliver aid through private to deliver aid through private companies. This comes at a time when the scale of civilian suffering and humanitarian aid is already intolerable. More than 52,000 people have now been killed in Gaza.

Israel has fully blocked the entry of humanitarian aid for over two months. The World Food Programme says their food stockpile has been says their food stockpile has been exhausted. These announcements from the Israeli government have rightly sparked grave concerns that this conflict which has already brought so much bloodshed and suffering may enter a dangerous new phase. I know that concern will be felt right across the house. Let me make the government decision crystal-clear. We strongly oppose the expansion of Israel's operations.

Any attempt to annex land in Gaza would be unacceptable. Palestinian territory must not be reduced nor subjected to any demographic change. We want this war to end. We want an immediate ceasefire, the release of all hostages, the urgent provision of humanitarian aid and a pathway to a political solution. All of us recognise that Hamas continue to hold hostages and the coolest fashion. The action show the complete disregard for the interests of the Palestinian people. Hamas must not divert aid for their own financial gain or you civilian infrastructure for military purposes.

We repeat our demands for the immediate release of the hostages. But an expansion of this conflict is not the route to achieve their safe return. That is why it is so strongly opposed by so many hostage families themselves. It is negotiations which offer the best hope of ending the agony of those waiting for loved ones held captive, alleviating the suffering of civilians and ending Hamas's control of Gaza. It is evident that Hamas cannot be defeated through military means alone.

An expansion of military operations will result in the deaths of more innocent civilians and put the hostages at yet greater risk. The fighting must stop. The government has said since day one that the only way to ensure a path towards long-term peace and stability is an immediate ceasefire, the release of hostages, better protection for civilians and significantly more aid entering Gaza. Diplomacy is how we ensure security for Israelis and Palestinians, not more bloodshed. All the people of this region deserve to live in peace, prosperity and security.

We urge all parties to return urgently to talks, implement the ceasefire agreement in full and work towards a permanent peace. We continue to use diplomatic weight to end the suffering. After more than two months of aid into Gaza being blocked, Palestinians continue to face immense suffering. Essential supplies of food and medicine are either no longer available or quickly running out. As the UN has already said, it is hard to see how, if implement it, the new Israeli plan to deliver aid through private companies will be consistent with humanitarian principles and meet the scale of the need.

We need urgent clarity from the Israeli government for their intentions. We must remember what is at stake. These humanitarian principles matter for every conflict around the world. They should be applied consistently in every war zone. As we have said repeatedly, humanitarian aid must never be used as a political tool and Israel is bound under international law to allow the unhindered passage of humanitarian aid. I repeat my call for Israel to engage with partners to allow for rapid and unhindered surgeons of flow of eight into Gaza.

We reiterate our outrage of recent strikes by Israeli forces on humanitarian workers, on infrastructure and healthcare facilities. Israel must do far more and hold to account those who are responsible. Over a year after the central attacked the central question, continue to press for a conclusion to the Israeli investigation and a decision as to whether criminal proceedings will be brought. The UN and humanitarian partners must be able to carry out their work in safety in accordance with their principles.

Last week, we welcomed prime minister Mr for of the authority into the UK. We signed a landmark memorandum and confirmed the £101 million package of support to the Occupied Palestinian Territories. We will continue to support the Palestinian Authority as the only legitimate governing entity in the Occupied Palestinian Territories, including in Gaza. During that visit, we reaffirmed the U.K.'s commitment to recognising a U.K.'s commitment to recognising a Palestinian state as a contribution to a two state solution. It is only to a two state solution.

It is only a political uprising towards a two state solution that can ensure the state solution that can ensure the long-term peace and security are both Palestinians and Israelis. I commend this statement to the house.
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Priti Patel Portrait Rt Hon Priti Patel MP (Witham, Conservative)
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Today is day 578 of the atrocities of October 7. 59 innocent hostages continue to be held in cruel captivity by Hamas and those who are still alive have no access to aid or communication with their families. So, does the Minister agree that Iran and Hamas are to blame for the events that have happened since 7 October and that the immediate return of hostages would aid efforts to secure the ceasefire? Can the Minister explain what discussions the Foreign Secretary has had in recent days with the US and other partners who have brokered previous agreements on efforts to secure the release of these hostages.

And what exactly is Britain contributing to these efforts? Is the UK convening power effectively being used and what international pressures is the UK trying to bring to bear to release hostages and to see their removal from power? The Minister has stated today that Hamas cannot be defeated through military means. On what basis is you reach that assertion and what is his alternative to getting Hamas laid out? The Minister has mentioned the Israeli government's fears about a diverging and if the current situation is to be unblocked, the government must seriously engage with Israel to address many of the concerns and the broader situation that has led to the breakdown, so can the Minister say how UK funding aid is waiting to say how UK funding aid is waiting to enter Gaza.

How much aid is waiting with Israeli counterparts to reach practical solutions for this issue. What engagement is taking place between the Foreign Secretary and his Israeli counterparts on the decision of the Israeli security cabinet to undertake this new operation in Gaza, including on its objectives. We want to see an end to the conflict and return of hostages and this awful crisis to be alleviated, and eventually, two state solution with the region free of Hamas and the threats from Iran. The government is talking about wanting to achieve these things but it needs to convince us all that there was a plan for achieving this.

The root causes of so much bloodshed and misery in the Middle East is the regime in Iran. And if this government is serious about achieving a sustainable police in the Middle East, it has to have a strategy to deter and undermine Iran is regime and its awful approach to sewing destruction. And also to export the oppression around the world including here in the UK which we heard about in the statement earlier. So when is the government going to come up with a clear strategy for dealing with this maligned threat and the threat towards peace and stability both in the Middle East and elsewhere.

For months, we have been asking questions of this government, and I asked the same question to the Minister just last week and as we saw 27 March, the security committee sent a report on Iran to the Prime Minister so how many more militants and terrorists will be bankrolled by Iran, lives threatened before this government has a clear strategy in place, and what engagement is taking place with the US to tackle Iran is influence and make sure they don't become a nuclear state? While the Minister is at the despatch boxes, can he update us on other matters in the Middle East? On Sunday, the Iranian-backed who fees fired missile in Israel is during six people.

The risk to aviation, many more could have been injured or killed on the ground and no doubt that must have been the desired outcome. So does the Minister have a plan to deal with these ongoing threats of the who fees including the threat they place to stability the threat they place to stability the threat they place to stability It took six days before informing the house via ministerial statement that they were doing this. The Minister explained while the house -- why the house was given this discourtesy.

On the subject of these sanctions, we still have no clarity about the criteria being used to lift these sanctions, the entities identified in the impact and the government are not applying any conditions. If we look at the US, they are imposing sanctions, including for destroying chemical weapons. -- Including destroying chemical weapons. Why are we now working in isolation and in such an uncoordinated way because the last government led a coordinated approach when came to Syria. We have approach when came to Syria.

We have to be cautious when it comes to lifting sanctions on Syria. It's a fragile situation. Particularly when fragile situation. Particularly when we saw the clashes. Is the government pressing HTS into action? In the Minister update the house on In the Minister update the house on the situation in Lebanon and what is his assessment of the current situation, including the adherence situation, including the adherence to the ceasefire and the broader political stability? political stability? political stability?
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Hamish Falconer Portrait Mr Hamish Falconer MP, Parliamentary Under-Secretary (Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office) (Lincoln, Labour)
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Thank you. I thank the right honourable lady for her important questions. I will take the opportunity to respond on the very important question she raises about the attack on the airport. I condemn the who these -- macro who these -- Houthis ongoing attacks. We reiterate our support for Israel's right to self defence in the face of The right honourable lady raises a number of important points. I can update the house that we are in regular contact with those in the region, including the special envoy of the United States president who is in the region now.

And, of course, the Foreign Secretary has been in touch with his counterpart. In Israel as well as indeed many others. He has been in Qatar recently. She asks for an update on sanctions. I wasn't aware of any discourtesy in the sequence announcement. If there is any discourtesy, I can assure her it was accidental. We took the steps we took in relation to serious sanctions because we want the new government to succeed. Britain's interest is in a stable and secure serial.

The new Syrian government have taken steps, which I welcome. There are still areas of major concern but the judgement that I took alongside the Foreign Secretary is that we should lift those sanctions, which were aimed at the Assad regime, so we are lifting sanctions which are clearly no sanctions which are clearly no longer targeting entities controlled by the Assad regime, which is clearly no longer in power in Syria clearly no longer in power in Syria and maintained them were Assad's -- assets were still with them.

We took assets were still with them. We took steps to try and ensure that the new Syria has the best possible chance Syria has the best possible chance of being successful. We have of being successful. We have maintained those sanctions on the Assad family and we did so in close cooperation with our allies. cooperation with our allies.
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Monica Harding Portrait Monica Harding MP (Esher and Walton, Liberal Democrat)
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Thank you. The Israeli government was my decision to approve plans for was my decision to approve plans for an expanded offensive summarised by officials as the conquest of Gaza is officials as the conquest of Gaza is disgraceful. It will wreck more devastation and displacement in Palestinians after months of bombardment. It will also narrow the path back to a ceasefire while severely harming the chances of severely harming the chances of getting the remaining hostages and Hamas's captivity back to Israel Hamas's captivity back to Israel alive.

-- In Hamas's activity. Does alive. -- In Hamas's activity. Does the Minister agree with me that if Israel carries out this threat, this Israel carries out this threat, this would constitute another breach of international. Can the Minister international. Can the Minister outline what this government was back response would be? The latest blockade of Gaza has now reached blockade of Gaza has now reached over 60 days. The UN had described it as a growing humanitarian catastrophe. Prime Minister Netanyahu's latest proposal to deliver aid through private companies and military hubs would appear to contravene basic principles of international humanitarian law, including the neutrality of aid.

It has been criticised by aid organisations as dangerous and unworkable. The Israel government's refusal to reopen agents is utterly unacceptable and contravenes its obligations as an occupying power. We would welcome -- we welcome the government's pledge of support for the occupied Palestinian territories. Without more action to secure the opening of eight pathways, this will not eight pathways, this will not provide relief to Palestinians. Can the Minister provide details on how the government is working with international partners to pressure the Israeli government to allow aid the Israeli government to allow aid to reach Gaza? Can he also update to reach Gaza? Can he also update the house on whether contingency measures are being considered to ensure aid reaches those suffering in Gaza even if Israeli government in Gaza even if Israeli government continues to block the direct supply of aid into this -- into Gaza?
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clear concept in international law. Of course, Israel is an important security -- security trade and security -- security trade and democratic partner but that doesn't democratic partner but that doesn't give it a blank cheque. The fact is that 30,000 children -- 13,000 that 30,000 children -- 13,000 children have been killed and 25,000 injured. I have been in this house injured. I have been in this house for many years and I have supported for many years and I have supported for many years and I have supported Israel every time.

I have to say that I got it wrong. I condemn Israel for what it is doing to the Palestinian people in Gaza and Palestinian people in Gaza and indeed in the West Bank. I'd like to withdraw my support right now for the actions of Israel. What they are the actions of Israel. What they are doing right now in Gaza. Of course doing right now in Gaza. Of course the hostages should be released. Of course Israel has the right to exist. Of course the Israeli people, exist.

Of course the Israeli people, the Jewish people, should have the right to live in peace, but so do the Palestinian people. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The life of a Palestinian child is as precious as the life of a Jewish child. And this, and this particular moment in time, this is not only this Parliament 's greatest our. And this Parliament 's greatest our. And concerned that this is a moment in history when people look back and we have got it wrong as a country.

Can the Minister stand up to our friends and allies in the United States and and allies in the United States and make a strong stand for humanity, for us being on the right side of for us being on the right side of history, for having the moral courage to lead, not just follow the courage to lead, not just follow the United States, and to make a difference? That is why we are all difference? That is why we are all elected here. That stand up for life.

Let's stand up for all children, not just Jewish children. children, not just Jewish children.
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Laurence Turner Portrait Laurence Turner MP (Birmingham Northfield, Labour)
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I beg to move that leave be given to bring in a mill -- bill to give to bring in a mill -- bill to give the Secretary of State time to the Secretary of State time to review. The house has asked itself the question from time to time what the question from time to time what the question from time to time what value do we place on offering victims of crime support. I believe it is time to ask ourselves the it is time to ask ourselves the question again.

Victim support can take many forms. This includes nonfinancial measures we have got better and we must get better still. better and we must get better still. As recognising the lifelong impact that violent crime has on a person. -- After recognising the lifelong -- After recognising the lifelong impact. There must be better information sharing about processes information sharing about processes for accessing NHS, diagnostic and therapeutic support. That therapeutic support. That information sharing should start with the police, the ambulance service and the Crown Prosecution Service.

I was pleased to hear recently from the CPS about enhanced victim support that is now in place. There will always be cases where financial loss has occurred or where financial remedy is necessary or otherwise appropriate means of providing some measure of justice to those who have suffered assault. I think all sides of this house would wholeheartedly endorse a principle wherever possible the perpetrators of violent crime should pay the cost of restitution. Indeed, it is a welcome and remarkable achievement that the amount recovered to fund support services through the victim surcharge first introduced in 2007 have nearly doubled over the last four years.

But the criminal injuries compensation scheme exists because some offenders like or cannot be proven to possess the assets or revenue to pay those costs. The perpetrators of violence are never identified. Crime statistics notoriously do not tell the full story. In the West Midlands police force area, nearly one in five violent assaults are not persecuted because now suspect can be named. I shouldn't like to commend -- I should like to commend the chief constable for their success in increasing the number and share of identified assailants but the point stands.

The animating the point stands. The animating force behind the current criminal injuries compensation scheme was a Birmingham magistrate and the first secretary of the penal reform, Marjorie Fry, who led a campaign in the 50s of justice for victims. She argued that the criminal injuries cannot be narrowly considered to be a private matter between the assailant and the victim. Just as we provide for each other in times of sickness through National Insurance, so to, she argued. Duty is owned by the state to prevent one citizen from entering another.

The state cannot disown all responsibility for its occasional failure to protect. Today, that same principle as set out by the criminal injuries compensation authority when they say that payment is sometimes needed as an acknowledgement of harm and an important gesture of public sympathy. That scheme is now an integral part of the justice system, even if it is, as my honourable friend, the member for Hammersmith and Chiswick, the chair of the justice committee put it last week, something of a Cinderella service.

Nothing in what I say today is intended as a criticism of the staff of Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority. They work hard under difficult circumstances with staffing numbers which have fallen since the current iteration of the scheme was introduced into the central. The Civil Service people survey shows that they take pride, find professional fulfilment in their work. As someone who wants -- once received an award from the scheme, I'm grateful to that. Important that positive improvements have been made compared to six years ago -- six months ago when a report was published.

I know that the Minister knows about victim support combined with specialist knowledge about the matter and I'm grateful to her for her thoughtful responses and conversations on this issue. It is clear also that feelings remain within the system as we heard last week when members across parties contributed to a debate is -- in Westminster Hall. I pay attention to the delays that too many applicants to experience. The lack of signposting or integration with wider support services, a general lack of public awareness about the scheme itself.

The trauma of attacks on postal workers and victims who are ineligible for compensation following changes to the scheme in 2012. -- Dog attacks. In addition, the supposedly £500,000 a year hardship fund established 13 years ago that is now essentially a dead letter for criteria, so restrictive that no payments have been made from it at all in the last seven years. Many serious and life changing injuries are not covered at all by the scheme. Now, it is true that the upper cap Is limited by the lowest has not changed since it's been frozen in cash terms since 1992.

I would like to draw attention to a point made in this place by my Honourable friend, the member for Derby North, who referred to annex B of the scheme which defines a crime of violence as including, and I quote, a section of -- and assault quote, a section of -- and assault to which the person did not consent. These are ideas from different age. Even if the courts now take a more informed interpretation, the continued presence of this definition can only cause harm and it must be struck from the scheme.

These problems, and I believe from my own casework and that of other members, that these problems due to an extent persist and they impose a heavy burden on the terms of crime. Like some other members of this house, I bear the physical scars of violent crime, alongside other scars of a different and more subtle kind. I spoken previously in another debate about that experience and I do not intend to repeat those words today. It is enough to ask for Honourable members to take it on trust that delays, the seemingly arbitrary rules of the scheme, the manner of communication and sometimes, yes, poor decision-making can add to the sum of paying the victims -- pain the victims feel.

A perpetrator might evade justice but it is part of a nature for trauma response that at a slight or unexpected prompting, a victim may be compelled to relive that crime again and again. That is why the Victims' Commissioner has called for an overarching review of the scheme to establish whether it actually fulfils its remit, to acknowledge the harm suffered by victims of violent crime who have no other access to compensation and to provide redress as part of a just and compassionate response.

That is what the bill, which I beg leave to introduce, would achieve. The legislation would set out a simple requirement for fundamental review and for ministers to report that of the house with proposals for the scrutiny and debate. I cannot stand here and claim that easy answers To the best of my calculations, the cost of the scheme appears to be falling. It is better that the reform be carried through in a deliberate manner on the basis of accurate and recent evidence and with the needs of victims as primary concern.

To that end, I take heart from the state that although the government does not plan changes to the scheme, at this time, she went on to say the clear message is we need change and that she will consider how to best consider the support of victims need and deserve. I take heart from the statement of personal support from the Prime Minister to the victims of crime when this matter was raised with him a fortnight ago by my honourable friend, the member for Warrington North.

This issue touches the lives of people in every constituency. No amount of money can return someone to the mental and physical state prior to an assault. It is a well-

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functioning, fair, and compassionate scheme and the victims deserve a measure of justice. The question is that the

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The question is that the honourable member have leave to bring in the bill. As many as of bring in the bill. As many as of that opinion, say, "Aye." The ayes that opinion, say, "Aye." The ayes have it. Who will prepare and bring

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in the bill? Catherine Atkinson, Kevin

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Catherine Atkinson, Kevin McKenna, Tim Roca, and Alistair Strathern, and myself.
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Second reading, what they? We come to the general debate on the We come to the general debate on the 80th anniversary of victory in Europe and Japan.

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I am honoured to be opening the debate as we come together as a debate as we come together as a House and country to mark 80 years House and country to mark 80 years since Victory in Europe Day and on August 15 remark victory over Japan. August 15 remark victory over Japan. In May 1940, in his first speech as Prime Minister, Winston Churchill Prime Minister, Winston Churchill proclaimed, "Let us go forward together with originated strength." And that is what they did, carrying through six years of war, suffering, sacrifice, to preserve the way of life that we enjoy and the values that we hold dear today and from the evacuation of Dunkirk to the Battle of Britain and the Blitz, those brave service personnel have served their country.

Those who paid the their country. Those who paid the ultimate sacrifice for our freedoms, we thank you and remember you. We we thank you and remember you. We remember those on the home front, evacuated children, women stepping evacuated children, women stepping into roles and I thank the cousin of my grandad who went to work in a my grandad who went to work in a factory for the first time and those who worked in the pit to power the war effort. We remember the war effort.

We remember the contribution they made and the lasting legacy of peace that they fought to secure, today, and always. fought to secure, today, and always.
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Stephanie Peacock Portrait Stephanie Peacock MP, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (Department for Culture, Media and Sport) (Barnsley South, Labour)
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There was an oversight on the contribution but Northern Ireland made a contribution and there was never any conscription needed and the great thing was that women filled the gap. They worked in the farms and the fields and all of those things, 12,500 women supported them at the front.

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I will speak about Northern Ireland later and I was delighted to visit a few weeks ago to see how visit a few weeks ago to see how they will commemorate VE day. He is they will commemorate VE day. He is right. The members will be able to share how their constituency or families play the part of the effort families play the part of the effort families play the part of the effort and the commemorations to mark VE and the commemorations to mark VE and VJ continue and we will bring this to life and the number of those with this in living memory are becoming ever smaller.

The becoming ever smaller. The anniversary may be the last where veterans who directly contributed to the victory can be an attendance of the victory can be an attendance of where young people can speak to family members who contributed to the effort and I grew up hearing the effort and I grew up hearing stories from my grandfather who served in the RAF and others may not have the opportunity to directly have the opportunity to directly connect with veterans and it is up to us to keep the memory alive.

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will give free. I would like to pay tribute to the corporal who was one of the first soldiers killed in world War first soldiers killed in world War two from the first Battalion in two from the first Battalion in Shropshire Light Infantry. I also pay tribute to the Royal Artillery pay tribute to the Royal Artillery and the distinguish campaign in

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and the distinguish campaign in I joined the honourable gentleman in paying tribute and he makes an important point and he put it on important point and he put it on record and I'm proud to echo his sentiments and, as I said, it is up to all of us to keep the collective to all of us to keep the collective memory alive. I will give way. Speak we celebrate 80 years since the liberation of the continent from the liberation of the continent from the clinical regime and, of course, we must be forever grateful to the brave souls who fought for freedom.

We are within Europe and once again We are within Europe and once again we are faced with a regime which is hellbent on subjugation and tyranny and we must stand up to aggressors and remember that piece is hard-won. Speaking of the defence secretary also heard the point. I will give way.

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Does the Minister agree that the reason for the anniversary is that reason for the anniversary is that they can be led by veterans and that will not be the case in 2039 but will not be the case in 2039 but does she agree that it is important that we start to plan for the centenary of the Second World War because, having been heavily because, having been heavily involved, the UK, if anything, began preparations to let compared with

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friends and allies. The honourable gentleman makes an important point and I spoke about important point and I spoke about this just yesterday and we need to start to plan now. I will give way. Speak with the Minister is incredibly generous. Does she share incredibly generous. Does she share my regret that the decision of the war museum to close a gallery war museum to close a gallery displaying over 200 Victoria Crosses and George Crosses which were and George Crosses which were collected by Lord Ashcroft and given to the gallery for permanent public display and could she ask if the War Museum would reconsider that decision? See, I have heard that point.

I know we spoke about it previously. I know the honourable member has had conversations with Lord Ashcroft and the Imperial War Museum. I will reflect those comments to him and follow-up to the honourable gentleman in writing. I will speak about remembrance at the moment but I want to touch on how important that collective memory and legacy is. The government launched a number of initiatives to ensure every generation, young and old, can connect with family and communities. To explore family histories and look for old letters and artefacts to learn about life during wartime and show them on the website.

My mum and dad discovered lovely letters between my grandparents during the war and after they got married. To inspire young people to learn about life during wartime Britain, we launched a shared story which brought together a range of educational resources including material to skills, called Our Remember which called the people to remember of the people will be called on to watch a brand-new theatre production written by an award-winning playwright. The short film focus hopes, dreams, ambitions of young people after the Second World War.

I have written to young people to share these materials and they are designed to run through the year two VJ Day and beyond and to get the tenant 24 commemorations, whether that be punting, picking litter, and I spotted one in my own area. To deliver the events and national and district government has worked with an array of brilliant partners including the National Theatre, RBL, Atlantic Productions, Arts Council England, the BBC, the DCMS, and the service personnel. I express my gratitude for the commitment and I would like to take the opportunity to pay tribute to those serving in the armed forces

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I will add one more to that list of excellent organisations supporting this. It is important we supporting this. It is important we celebrate VE and VJ in Staffordshire celebrate VE and VJ in Staffordshire where I was born -- we are a man of note was born and also just down the

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road from where we are celebrating. He is right. Want to talk about

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He is right. Want to talk about the national memorial and will talk the national memorial and will talk about that later in my contribution. I was pleased to visit a couple of years ago. We want the whole of the UK to feel included and involved in the celebrations, whatever they live the celebrations, whatever they live and whoever they are. Events to mark the occasion began yesterday with the occasion began yesterday with the set of drinks overnight into Monday, the first time since 1920, followed by the military procession which included over 3000 armed forces personnel in uniform.

Accompanied by a flypast led by our RAF Lancaster red arrow. When the news of peace in Europe arrived in 1945, spontaneous celebrations broke out in the streets. Both parties were replicated with street parties up and down the country yesterday and I was delighted to join the King and members of the Royal family and that friend at a tea party at Buckingham Palace. I take this opportunity to pay tribute to the fact it is two years to the day since the coronation of the king.

I was also pleased to attend the coronation. I know communities will have come together across the country in celebration. I thank all local authorities for the local events they have been and will continue to lead. Iconic buildings will be let up as beacons of strength and national unity, symbolising the return of light after an either of blackouts and echoing the moment that it was November, almost 30 ceramic poppies on loan from the Imperial War Museum will cascade from the Tower of London, recreating the installation in 2014.

The poppies represent something that survived the Blitz at the top of the tower. Tomorrow, special performance will take place. The Imperial War Museum and the National Theatre are working together to showcase letters to loved ones and to Premier the new film, 'The Next Morning', highlighting the impact history can have. An official unveiling will take place at Westminster Abbey before celebrations include with the concert which will be shown live on the BBC, mirroring this with music, poetry, spoken word, reflecting our proud national stories, values, culture, through these events, we can make sure the legacy of those who gave their lives will always have the same profound impact.



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I thank the Minister for giving me. It's a particularly poignant debate. I attended the funeral of debate. I attended the funeral of Betty Webb who was a code breaker Betty Webb who was a code breaker who epitomise the best of this great generation. Will be Minister join me in paying tribute to Betty for the sacrifice and commitment she provided to the war effort?

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provided to the war effort? I join the honourable gentleman in paying tribute to Betty. I'm sure in paying tribute to Betty. I'm sure the whole House does. I thank my counterparts in the Scottish, Welsh, counterparts in the Scottish, Welsh, Northern Ireland governments for their contributions. Events will take place at every devolved nation. take place at every devolved nation. Northern Ireland will host a ceremony lighting a beacon and I ceremony lighting a beacon and I took up the invitation from the other member to see how community other member to see how community will mark the occasion.

Services are commemoration to take place in Wales such as the National Service of Thanksgiving tomorrow. I look Thanksgiving tomorrow. I look forward to meeting my counterpart in There will be a Scottish concert tomorrow. I was pleased to visit the Scottish war memorial in Edinburgh

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recently to pay tribute to the Scottish soldiers who paid the ultimate sacrifice. I thank the Minister who is

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I thank the Minister who is making an excellent speech. As I celebrated it with my constituents, for example the Royal British Legion organised an event, and we reflected on the contributions of our family members including my great- grandfather and my grandmother's grandfather and my grandmother's brother and others who fought during those conflicts. Does the Minister agree that those armies fighting for agree that those armies fighting for our freedom are very reflective and representative of today's modern day representative of today's modern day Britain? And that we must use that very fact when countering those who

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espouse hatred and division? He makes a very important point.

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He makes a very important point. I echo what he's saying. As we reflect through this week, we must reflect through this week, we must of course remember everyone who supported the war effort in particular the Channel Islands, particular the Channel Islands, whose courage is woven into the fabric of our freedom. The Channel Islands were not liberated until 9 May, and their story is one of hardship and perseverance. To mark liberation day, the Ministry of Justice will fly the flags of Jersey and Guernsey in commemoration.

I will be visiting jersey at the end of this week to commemorate liberation day. I look forward to participating in the commemorations and to meeting and hearing about the soldiers, civilians, children who sacrificed so much. The Second World War was just that, a world war. And Britain would not be the country we know it to be today if it were not for the Commonwealth troops who fought tirelessly for our victory. I'm pleased to be working with the Commonwealth War Graves Commission as part of the VE Day and VJ Day commemorations, to ensure that the commemorations are worldwide.

They will honour and shine a light on the stories of those across the world who fought in the Second World War, visiting Belgium, Italy, Malta, France, and the Netherlands, and across the UK, bring the stories of the soldiers to lie. It is important to know that many of the service personnel continue to fight in the Pacific long after the war on the European front had come to an end. We will mark the contribution again on VJ Day on August 15. On the first VJ Day 80 years ago, Clement Attlee, the prime minister, said to this House, " The long war is at an end and peace on earth has been restored.

" And those 60s aborts all the generations before us make tremendous sacrifices to preserve the way of life we enjoy today. On VJ Day, the Royal British Legion will lead the nation in honouring those who fought and died during the war in the far east with the service and the National Memorial Arboretum. The legacy of those who gave oris their lives will always have a profound impact. It is up to all of us to keep their stories alive. Once more, we have come through.

As the poet Edmund Blunt said, " Moments of national unity live long in our memories. From the Olympics to our late Majesty Queen Elizabeth II's Jubilee. They bring us together, they remind us of our common communal values, how people together in times of adversity. How we show compassion to our neighbours. How we put our community before division in times of need. I am grateful that we, as a House, and as a country, have had the opportunity to create another moment of such unity today.

And throughout the year. As we remember that great generation.

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over Japan Day. Shadow Minister. I thank the Minister for that excellent speech. I welcome all the government has done in preparation government has done in preparation for VE Day and VJ Day. The 80th anniversary of the event is the time for the nation to come together and for the nation to come together and celebrate the conclusion of the Second World War. A war in which good triumphs over evil and liberated millions of people from liberated millions of people from the horrors of fascism.

On VE Day across the Western world millions across the Western world millions rejoiced and relieved that years of conflict are finally coming to an end. On 8 May 1945, which is people, including her Royal Highness Princess Elizabeth, flocked to the Princess Elizabeth, flocked to the streets to celebrate the defeat of Nazi Germany. In the liberation of Nazi Germany. In the liberation of Europe. People danced long into the night. They attended street parties and they look forward to a brighter future. We must not forget that as future.

We must not forget that as those parties wore on, Jizan Commonwealth troops, as well as at Allies, continued the struggle in Japan. It took until August 1945 for victory Japan to happen. This same at the conclusion in the Far East

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I thank you Shadow Minister for giving way. One of my constituents often leads the VJ Day commemorations in Harlow because her commemorations in Harlow because her father was a prisoner of war. Would he agree to is important that we he agree to is important that we recognise VJ Day and recognise the war in Europe may have ended but there was still going on many servicemen continue to give their
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Saqib Bhatti Portrait Saqib Bhatti MP (Meriden and Solihull East, Conservative)
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servicemen continue to give their lives? Quite I think the honourable Member. On this point, we are friends. I thanked him and the sacrifice of the family for all that happened on VJ Day. VE Day and VJ Day must forever be remembered and etched into our memories. I'm sure this whole House will agree with me that it is so important we remember these historic days for years to come. 2025 is especially important. It may well be one of the last years in which troops who served in the Second World War is are still alive.

For the Minister, the shadow Secretary of State has asked me if the Minister can comment directly on his campaign to bring a statue of Vera Lynn. Late David Amess launched an appeal to create a lasting memorial to Dame Vera Lynn. Her songs kept the morale of troops hi often at times of uncertainty and peril. During the Battle of Britain when it like the Nazis might evade written at any moment, she really did keep the bluebird singing over the White Cliffs of Dover. The committee needed to raise money to complete the bronzing process and bring the memorial home.

More the Minister be able to confirm that this fitting tribute will indeed be brought home? Every man and woman that served and served in our Armed Forces stand up for Britain and the rights we have fought for. Democracy, liberty, the rule of law. These values are precious and we are forever indebted to those brave souls who fought to defend this country. As the saying goes, freedom is not free. So to all those serving, those who have served, and those who have sacrificed, we say thank you.

Yesterday thousands of people descended upon The Mall to watch all three services march in the excellent VE Day parade. I'm sure the whole House will join me in paying tribute to everyone who took part especially the veterans who made the occasion so special. Today Her Majesty The Queen will visit the Tower of London to see the 30,000 poppies on display that marked reflect the sacrifices made by so many in the Second World War. And here in Parliament there will be a celebratory concert taking place in Westminster Hall, with a fantastic Parliament require performing alongside special guests.

On VE Day itself, nearly 2000 people including His Majesty The King and the Queen,

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and a host of veterans, will mark the 80th anniversary with a special service at Westminster Abbey. I thank him. Would he agree with

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I thank him. Would he agree with me that in addition to the fantastic array of events we have nationally marked VE Day and VJ Day, the committee events we have in our constituencies organised by local currency groups are really fantastic and give us a wonderful opportunity and give us a wonderful opportunity to celebrate and reflect on the great contribution of those who fought for our freedoms including fought for our freedoms including Projects Early to organise the fantastic celebration I attended on Monday?

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Monday? She makes an excellent point. She is right, it is the community events that do define the day for me. Over the coming days alongside national the coming days alongside national events, as I lead onto my speech, thousands of people around the thousands of people around the country will commemorate this historic occasion with street parties, church services, concerts. parties, church services, concerts. In my own constituency, we proudly In my own constituency, we proudly remember our heroes. Every year in the heart of England, thousands of cyclists come to honour the cyclists cyclists come to honour the cyclists who lost their lives in the first and second Lord Morse.

On Thursday I will be joining the mayor in lighting a beacon will stop later in the week I will be joining a street party. If I can, I would pay special tribute to the Observer printed a special edition commemoration with stories of the heroes that come from my part of the world. These events and many others across the country clearly show Britain at its best. In remembering, we must also remember that our victory forged relationships with our Allies and also their friends in the Commonwealth.

Troops from many nations from across the world, Christian, Hindu, Muslim, Jewish, Sikh, and other faiths. They fought side-by-side irrespective of their race and religion to stand up for the values we all hold dear. Their common goal, to stand against tyranny, to stand for freedom. The conclusion of the Second World War marked the end of the last major conflict in Europe until Putin's barbaric invasion of Ukraine. Whilst we rightly celebrate the end of the Second World War today, we must not forget the horrific and brutal conflict taking place in Europe.

We are all moved by the Ukrainian troops yesterday taking part in the parade. It reflects our country's deep and profound commitment to their noble cause. And it shows that this country will not stand by whilst brutal autocrats seek to impose themselves on Europe. While I am deeply proud of the St George's flag the Union Jack, I feel it is worth saying that I'm also proud of the Ukrainian flag is flown on council buildings across the UK. It is a reminder that this country will always stand up to bullies.

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stand for democracy and freedom. It is unusual for me to do two interventions in the same debate. When I think back to my personal experience and my family experience of the second war, my grandfather of the second war, my grandfather fought in the second war, and his war did not end in 1945, he did not come out until 1947 because it was come out until 1947 because it was part of the peacekeeping mission for Italy. Does he agree we look at the situation in Ukraine it is important that we remember Britain's role not

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that we remember Britain's role not just in winning the war but winning the peace as well, and how important are we in the future? I could not put it better myself.

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I could not put it better myself. The honourable Member makes an excellent point about the work that is happening now and will happen going forward. If I may indulge, I also note that the flag plan policy also note that the flag plan policy of the Reform Party would stop Armed Forces flags being flown. What Forces flags being flown. What blizzard does not equal patriotism. To conclude, at times of global uncertainty, reflecting on the uncertainty, reflecting on the Second World War always lends us some much needed perspective.

Remembering the history of the war and the causes of the war are absolutely essential. I'm hugely supportive of the government's work to celebrate VE Day and VJ Day. I look forward to member's

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Members will be able to see how many have written to speak in this evening's debate. There will be a four minute time limit after the front bench contributions. Samantha Niblett.

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Thank you Madam Deputy Speaker. As we mark the 80th anniversary of Victory in Europe Day, and later this summer we celebrate Victory over Japan Day. I am reminded of the extraordinary bravery shown by so extraordinary bravery shown by so many including our very own Ray Statham from my constituency of South Derbyshire. 80 years ago, he South Derbyshire. 80 years ago, he was in the English Channel supporting the D-Day landings. Now supporting the D-Day landings. Now as he approaches his 103rd birthday, we celebrate not only his longevity but the legacy of service he represents.

He served aboard HMS Indefatigable and I know everyone would want to wish you happy birthday and thank you for the service. I would also like to represent another constituent who served, and my own grandfather who served in the Royal Logistics Corps. Winston Churchill said that the surrender of Nazi Germany was the signal for the greatest outburst of joy and history of mankind. And while for many that was true, for countless others, the end of the war was marked by quiet sorrow for those who never came home.

Across the UK and overseas, the graves of those who made the ultimate sacrifice are lovingly maintained by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission.
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Max Wilkinson Portrait Max Wilkinson MP (Cheltenham, Liberal Democrat)
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On the eve of war, Archibald Sinclair weren't a policy which imposes a justice on a small and weak nation and tyranny on free men and women can never be the foundation of lasting peace. He was talking about the Munich Agreement which saw European powers seeding Czechoslovakian territory to Hitler. Nobody could describe them as small and weak. With the spectre of Vladimir Putin looming large on Europe and Trump threatening deals to carve up European territory, these words resonate today as they did then.

The wartime generation you the cost of giving ground to tyrants as they celebrated this week. The best way to celebrate peace is to redouble efforts to preserve it. They carry forward the legacy of service inherited from that extraordinary wartime generation. In memory of them, this anniversary memory of them, this anniversary must be a moment of reflection but renewed responsibility. This country is at its best when it works with allies, not when it shrinks from the role. This is likely the final big celebrations for veterans of World War II who are still with us.

There are 360 names on the war memorial in Cheltenham and many civilians in my town died in bombing raids. On VE town died in bombing raids. On VE Day, after six long use of war, people took to the streets. Children with Union Jack flags. People lined up outside the municipal offices to hear Winston Churchill deliver VE Day speech and an effigy of Adolf Hitler was burned. It ran well past midnight which is rather late for a genteel town in the 1940s.

It is right we pause to remember the scale of sacrifice and the legacy of the of sacrifice and the legacy of the victory that generation give us. This anniversary is not simply about marking dates in a calendar but a chance to say thank you to the dwindling number of surviving veterans and those who have suffered. Today I think of a 105- year-old I recently met in Cheltenham and possibly my oldest constituent who proudly told me about your contribution to the war effort as an intelligence analyst in Whitehall.

I think of all those who served in Gloucestershire Regiment and my two grandfathers who served, one in the Navy and one in the aria. This anniversary is about ensuring we continue to stand up for what they stood for. We must use this moment to recommit to the international cooperation and diplomacy that help to deliver it to yours without third world war. The piece has been threatened by the illegal invasion of Ukraine by Putin but it is no coincidence the community was built from the ashes of the Second World War.

In the face of the threats we face today, we must stand shoulder to shoulder with European allies. That means supporting NATO, standing up to aggression, strengthening the rule of international law. And that does not, as some have callously suggested, that Ukraine should accept ideal to cede some territory to Putin. That would betray the principles of the Second World War. They have received less recognition than those who served in Europe. The conflict continued after VE Day and punishing conditions and at immense human cost yet into many commemorations, their stories are These individuals our deepest gratitude and it is good to remember them this VE Day at the gratitude must be expressed in word and action.

Action to defend democracy and to defend the British values of liberty, tolerance, respect for the rule of law and by respecting lectures by looking after them properly a surplus is over with your mental health, housing, write a composition. This anniversary is of course not only about how we treat veterans but how we tell the story of the war and whose voices we include. The role of Commonwealth forces in securing victory is often overlooked. Some 2.5 million Indian troops served in the Second World War and many in the drilling campaign and trips from Africa, the Caribbean, across the Empire, fought valiantly and as a liberal and an internationalist, I believe you must be productive.

It is only right we recognise the contribution of the Commonwealth soldiers.

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I thank my honourable friend for giving way. We have the largest giving way. We have the largest Commonwealth War Graves the north of England in my constituency and there are events around the year including are events around the year including Remembrance Sunday and Christmas services. But he join me in congratulating them in the fantastic

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I absolutely would. The second best spa town in the country celebrates it wonderfully well. And beyond the ceremonies and parades, we must about the history international consciousness because remembered for the conclusion is incomplete. From Ukraine to the Middle East, we are reminded that peace is fragile and cannot be taken peace is fragile and cannot be taken for granted. The bills in the aftermath of 1945 is under the most strain it has ever been.

The world is under more strain than at any time since the Cold War. Colleagues are proud across the House that so many colleagues have sapped of the Armed Forces and we all stand with the armed forces. Finally, I want to express strong support for the program of the national commemoration planned this year and I think we can be proud of what is happening. These events give us a meaningful opportunity to reflect on the courage, resilience, unity that defined the war effort on the front lines at the home front.

Let us mark this 80th anniversary with solemnity but resolve I listen to the stories of those who serve, from the soldiers, to the evacuees, factory workers, codebreakers, and make sure every part of the legacy is carried forward. Let us honour them not just with words but with action.

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As with so many towns and villages across the UK, brave residents of my constituency for the grandparents of mine were involved in all aspects of the war effort. in all aspects of the war effort. Our towns and villages answered the call of service, service that took call of service, service that took so many forms. Early in the war, so many forms. Early in the war, Coatbridge hosted the Polish Coatbridge hosted the Polish artillery regiment for the short time after the addition of France and so were mostly hospitality and so were mostly hospitality offered by the locals that the regiment later adopted Coatbridge as the mother garrison and the coat of the mother garrison and the coat of arms of the town was emblazoned with arms of the town was emblazoned with the regimental standard.

Despite their own hardship and struggle, local people in my community and local people in my community and across the area engaged in a raft of activities to support the war effort, from knitwear, charity, Dallas, and not just for our own efforts. Also, to aid others, including the Russian Red Cross Society which was in few cases was the deep core is more apparent to the women of the siege of Leningrad to the women of Coatbridge only the about the actions in Russia and Ukraine today and I think would be ashamed of the actions taken by Vladimir Putin.

Of course, when reflecting on these years, it is impossible not to think of our families and the roles that they played alongside their neighbours and friends. Ordinary people engaging in extraordinary acts. I think of the privilege that it was to hear of the stories and reflect on those stories that went on told. I think of my grandfather who fought with the IDF and I am privileged to carry his wings with me today. -- RAF. His crew spanned the country at the Commonwealth and I also think of my paternal grandmother who spent the war as a crane driver and was more than a little irked when she was replaced by a returning service personnel after the war.

This was something she retired shouting about. The role of women has been discussed and will be us the debate continues and at the conclusion of the war the profit of the town Council recognised women for their role in the war effort and the weapons factories. The same message
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neighbours, fellow people from Plymouth were killed and streets were destroyed and enteric abilities were destroyed and enteric abilities were changed forever. In the early years of the work on my grandfather helped defend the coastal areas of Exmouth and did knowledge speak to me when I walk along local beaches. I often reflect on what it must have I often reflect on what it must have felt like to guard the shores under the threat of adventure, not knowing what would come next, only that you had to stand your ground.

By 1943, the 12 Battalion had been redesignated as a glider infantry redesignated as a glider infantry unit in the sixth division and the measure was to fly into combat, I a measure was to fly into combat, I a fragile craft made from wood and fragile craft made from wood and canvas. The thought of falling from the sky into enemy territory, under fire, and such vulnerable aircraft fire, and such vulnerable aircraft is almost unimaginable but that is exactly what they did. In 1944, my grandfather deployed to France for D-Day and he left behind my grandmother and their two-year-old son, my father.

When he went to work, his family remained under the shadow I see bombing of Plymouth continued. Thousands more would lose their lives and but he returned it was to a city transformed by devastation. He returned to the committee that had endured untold suffering. In March 1945, his Battalion to part in Operating Vast, and to This Day It Remains the Largest Airborne Operation Conducted on a Single Day in one location. The final weeks of the war, they reached northern Germany and kept sharp and waited, not knowing what horrors awaited.

Victory in Europe was declared on May 8, 1945. They were granted leave in many attended a fax giving service in a nearby village. Relief filled the air and the final chapter of the war was yet to be written. If the days that followed, they came face to face with the unimaginable, the atrocities of the concentration camps, and the images, no doubt, will be etched in their minds for ever. I never had the chance to meet my grandfather. He died many years before I was born.

I am deeply proud of him. His story, while personal, is not unique and that is why I share it. Up and down the UK, families carry stories like this. Stories of ordinary people thrust into extraordinary circumstances. Stories of courage, endurance, loss, love. The stories endurance, loss, love. The stories are not rare, they are woven into the fabric of the measure. I certainly don't is an experienced one myself but I still find it hard to truly comprehend what that to truly comprehend what that generation went through.

The sacrifice is a skill that few of us can draft today and it was made in the name of freedom, and the defence of democracy, the defiance of tyranny, and was a burden carried for all of us. We owe them a debt that can never be truly repaired but we could remember, or, and ensure that your legacy lives on. Because of their courage, we have lived in peace and for that, I will always be

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I am proud to speak in this debate on behalf of home of the British Army. In Aldershot and
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Alex Baker Portrait Alex Baker MP (Aldershot, Labour)
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British Army. In Aldershot and Farnborough, we over VE Day and VJ Day and it is woven into the very fabric of our community. My words today been shaped by my constituency were shared with me their memories and specialist knowledge. One of them told me her story as a 16 year old celebrating VE Day in her hometown of Aldershot, and Paul Vickers, military historian, who lives in Aldershot and who was an MoD librarian for 40 years. I want to thank them for their help as I try to do that stories from our town justice.

Aldershot stood at the very centre of the war effort. It was from these barracks and training ground that thousands of brave men and women were prepared for service across Europe, North Africa, and beyond. It was here that the troops were forged not just in skill but in spirit. It was here that wounded soldiers found safety and solace in the Cambridge and Connaught hospitals. My constituent, Iris Munro, now 96, was the youngest of nine children. Every one of her family played a role.

Her four brothers fighting across the globe brothers fighting across the globe in the Europe and the Far East. She remember sleeping under the stairs and how Lord Hall singled out the town as he tried to demoralise the population. She also recalls the towns defiance and spirit of resistance, as she sang "There will always be in England", and entertained her neighbours when they sought, in the dirt floored underground shelters, as the air raid warning sirens were overhead. Aldershot gave the Allied campaign strengthen its most literal sense, playing a vital role in the preparations for the D-Day landings, and serving as a hub for Canadian troops.

More than 320,000 of whom passed through its gates during the war. Farnborough was the beating heart of Britain's aeronautical innovation. The Royal aircraft Establishment became a crucible of scientific brilliance. It was in Farnborough that engineers and researchers develop the technologies that gave our pilot superiority in the skies, radar, advanced aircraft design, aerodynamics. It was a battle fought not with rifles but with calculations and courage. It helped to tilt the balance in the air towards the Allies. Farnborough proves that war can be won not only with force but with innovation.

On 8 May when news of Germany's surrender reached Aldershot, the town was united in joyful celebration. Fairy lights were hung in V for victory. The campaign led a spontaneous parade with hundreds linking arms and singing. I risk remember singing with her friends from the youth club, with her mum proudly waving from the sidelines. In Farnborough, a grand stance took place at the Royal aircraft establishment assembly hall. The music did not stop until 3 o'clock in the morning. It was not just a celebration, it was released.

A lifetime of tension and fear was finally let go in laughter, in dance and in community. Among these joyful scenes, we also have to remember the personal stories. Norman Nobby Bartlett who I was honoured to meet on Remembrance Day last year, but who sadly passed away this March. He joined the Navy away this March. He joined the Navy in 1942, at the age of 16. Ann suffered the extreme cold and danger of both the Arctic and Atlantic.

He was well enough having seen both D- Day landings and the Japanese

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surrender to make it to Normandy... Charlie Dewhirst.

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Charlie Dewhirst. Thank you Madam Deputy Speaker. If you were to drive round my beetle constituency, it would be hard to tell that the area played such a pivotal role in the Second World pivotal role in the Second World War. Only one active military site, War. Only one active military site, and it is now used by cadets and occasionally for training. I 1940s, occasionally for training. I 1940s, the countryside was littered with airfields, and the area played a airfields, and the area played a vital role in taking the air war to Germany.

I do not have time to go into each base but I'll do my best. into each base but I'll do my best. RAF Bridlington had a number of uses, including air rescue and uses, including air rescue and marine. To the north, RAF Benson was established as a radar station becoming part of the chain network. becoming part of the chain network. RAF Cotham is a satellite-based, and used occasionally for flying and a bomb storage site. Another site was an RAF bombing range and we are occasionally reminded of its past when bomb disposal teams are called in to deal with what has been in to deal with what has been unearthed.

Another RAF site was used for spittle fires passing through. It was used by the RAF and the Royal
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Charlie Dewhirst Portrait Charlie Dewhirst MP (Bridlington and The Wolds, Conservative)
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can air force fighter squadrons. RAF Catford had a small number of Spitfires and trained strike Spitfires and trained strike aircraft crews for operations in North Africa and the Middle East. An airstrip was surveyed but a better airstrip was surveyed but a better location was found nearby. An location was found nearby. An airstrip was however created from the steel mesh is a pop-up airstrip the steel mesh is a pop-up airstrip required for the invasion of Europe. required for the invasion of Europe.

And the proximity to Germany was hundreds of aircraft and used by men undertaking the most dangerous missions in the skies over continental Europe. RAF Sutton, continental Europe. RAF Sutton, amongst others, home to many of those bomber crews. Halifax bombers, Wellington bombers, and others. The 158 Squadron lost 144 aircraft and 158 Squadron lost 144 aircraft and just two years. Costing 150 airmen who are remembered. It was not just the bomber airbases themselves. We had another RAF site which was particularly important military asset as it was one of only three emergency landing strips in the country.

It was 2.7 km long and 230 m wide, five times the normal width and over 1500 bombers emergency landings there during the war. Including the dambusters who landed there with their Grand Slam bonds still on board. They were diverted due to bad weather. While the RAF played a vital role in my constituency, infantrymen in Yorkshire also served. The battalions served Dunkirk and India, Burma, North Africa, and Sicily for landing in the first wave on D-Day. Despite many casualties on the first day they achieved all of their objectives and fought on all the way to Germany.

Our area has a French connection, as a number of regiments are based at Hornsey. I am delighted to have had the brief opportunity to highlight Yorkshire's rich wartime history. I also want to pay tribute to all constituents currently serving in the Armed Forces and to the 5000 veterans living in the local area. Whether Normandy or Northern Ireland, on land, air, or see, in this the 80th anniversary of the liberation of Europe, we thank you for your service and your sacrifice.



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Thank you Madam Deputy Speaker. 80 years ago, Britain celebrated 80 years ago, Britain celebrated victory. The war was over but the real achievement was the real achievement was the extraordinary effort. The unity, the resolve, the national determination resolve, the national determination to stand up to fascism and to defend freedom and democracy. I thought about that a lot over the years, about that a lot over the years, listening to my Grandad share memories, and I watched my dad leave home to go to the first Gulf War.

And served in Afghanistan. The
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Alex Ballinger Portrait Alex Ballinger MP (Halesowen, Labour)
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And served in Afghanistan. The message from VE Day has stayed with me, victory is about the whole country. When I was in Afghanistan, we faced attacks from rockets, snipers and mortar fire. I remember just as clearly how a fight on the frontline relied on so many of us. We lost many good soldiers and Marines tragically but our tactics changed, new procedures were developed and the same innovations. Vehicles were developed with better body armour and the innovations saved lives.

In Ukraine, the same process is happening right now. I was there last month when the Ukrainian Defence Ministry went into overdrive to help save them from Russian aggression. There is no denying we live in difficult times. War is raging on our continent. 80 years on from the lasting peace in Europe. That is why support the government plans to raise defence spending to 2.5% of GDP. It is necessary. I'm truly serious about security. We must emphasise and ensure that spending builds strength at home.

In 1945, shipyards and engineering firms turn the war effort around. And my grandad served on a ship that was built at Barrow shipyard. Black Country made tanks and armoured cars. These places did not just support the war, they made victory possible. Today, the Black Country still has the talent and drive. It produces vital equipment for the Royal Navy. Parts of the for the Royal Navy. Parts of the ships and tanks have been built for generations.

These are not relics of the past but the backbone of the future defence industry. The deterrence starts long before the first shots are fired. As we are seeing in Ukraine, strong and capable military is essential. This VE Day is to honour those who served and sacrificed, we also have a duty to ask what country we want to be today. I'll be ready for the challenges ahead? Are we investing for the skills and infrastructure that kept a 380 years ago? And to be bold.

To rebuild our strength at home so we can be strong abroad. And remember that Britain's security is always resting not just on the courage of its troops along the quiet determination of people and places. The spirit of 1945, unity and purpose, it is important and it is time that we followed it again.
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Alison Bennett Portrait Alison Bennett MP (Mid Sussex, Liberal Democrat)
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Thank you Madam Deputy Speaker. In 1945, after six long years of hardship, sacrifice, and loss, peace returned to a continent torn apart by conflict. When the news broke, in Mid Sussex, in our towns and villages, people gathered for street parties, shared cups of tea and "Bring your own cups" celebrations. They help Thanksgiving services and lit bonfires that can be seen for miles. There was joy but also reflection. The victory could never undo the human cost.

I recently met a wonderful charity working hard to highlight the work of a specific group during the war, the photo reconnaissance unit, or PRU, the central part of the war effort. Among those who served their was William Kummer, constituent at that time of Sussex. Flight Lieutenant William Edward Kummer was the son of William and Emma Kummer. He was born in West Sussex. Joining the RAF he was posted to the reconnaissance Squadron operating in the Mediterranean. It was taken ill on 5 December 1943, and was taken to the number 63 General Hospital, where, despite use of an iron lung, he died of polio on 10th of December.

We thank him and I asked the Minister whether he will support a national more for the unit. And we thank the others who served and gave everything to the country. We shall remember them.

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I thank your poor member for way. My constituent was one of the brave My constituent was one of the brave pilots in the same unit. He survived only two sadly passed away on the only two sadly passed away on the journey home. We have heard from so many colleagues already about their stories, but these have largely been stories, but these have largely been untold. The crucial work they did to help in the war...

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need to be interventions not I thank the honourable member for her intervention and the additional her intervention and the additional insight. Coming from an army insight. Coming from an army family,, age 7, with a member of our family,, age 7, with a member of our war dead. They must be remembered and doing so matters to me. Dear and doing so matters to me. Dear strength and sacrifice paved the way for all the freedoms that we enjoy today and that is why this anniversary matters.

It's not just a historical milestone but a powerful reminder of the values we must continue to uphold of courage, unity, resilience, and unshakeable belief in the importance of peace. It's fantastic mid Sussex is coming together to celebrate in the same way as all those years ago. From the reflective service to the community parades and the lighting of the beacons in Victoria Park and St John's Park, this anniversary will be marked with pride, dignity, with heart.

VE Day is not just about looking back but reminding ourselves of what was fought for their of what was fought for their freedom, democracy, peace. And remembering how vital it is to protect those values. Sadly, we live in a world that still faces conflict and uncertainty with dark and divisive forces that seek to disrupt peace, incite hatred, push to the safety lessons learnt it years ago and so, on this anniversary, let us remember, honour them, and ensure the legacy of those who gave everything is remember, not just in

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our words, but in our actions. I am privileged to speak to the with so many powerful speeches from colleagues across the House and I'm glad to draw attention to the people glad to draw attention to the people of Cowdenbeath and Kirkcaldy and the special role my constituents and special role my constituents and their forefathers played in securing
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Melanie Ward Portrait Melanie Ward MP (Cowdenbeath and Kirkcaldy, Labour)
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victory for the Allies. Many of them are present at the most crucial turning points of World War II, from Dunkirk, the Normandy landings, the crossing of the Rhine in 1945. Hundreds of young men lost their lives. We will remember them. I want to draw attention to the enormous contribution that women made to the war effort. Having entered the workforce en masse in the world famous linoleum and history of Kirkcaldy, the contribution to the Second World War effort by the women of Kirkcaldy was invaluable.

Women working at Nairn's manufactured contributions to the gas masks and such quantities could only be made in Kirkcaldy and this was a decisive factor in the victory as the Nazis could not manufacture the gas-proof textiles in sufficient quantities and so did not use the gas in air raids for fear of retaliation. One of the most iconic symbols I did the lack of use is testament to the work of people from Fife, particularly our woman. There were thousands of members of the Parachute Brigade who were stationed in my constituency and they help to fortify the east coast of Scotland and set up anti- tank barriers and boxes up to Montrose and in the island of Inchcombe in th eForth.

The leader of the Polish government in exile had a house there. Winston Churchill admitted the House on the death of General Sikorski in July, 1943. Until the moment of his death, he lived the conviction that all else must be subordinated in the middle of the common good of many political media hubs in my constituency after World War II and were an important part of the community. The memory of those who fought in both world wars and all others and in particular those who do not make it home is kept alive by the fantastic work of the Kirkcaldy Legion.

The work alongside the United Services Unit also supports trends in our area and I'm proud of the work the government is putting in to support veterans and families. I would also like to commemorate the contribution of my grandmother who served in a munitions factory and my grandfather who served at the RAF during World War II. So builders before the war, and like so many, they stepped up secure our freedom. In the face of the challenges and in this debate and on the 80th anniversary of VE Day on Thursday, we commemorate real people who work, serve, if their lives for freedom and prosperity in the face of immense challenges.

They are the reason, after all, why we

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What an excellent speech to have the privilege of following. It is, so impressive when people do their duty right up until the end. I asked duty right up until the end. I asked the House to salute the passing of the Normandy veterans Cecil Newton
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Julian Lewis Portrait Rt Hon Sir Julian Lewis MP (New Forest East, Conservative)
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who as recently as last year came back to new Forest east and read out the names of more than 100 colleagues in the Royal Dragoon Guards killed in the D-Day landings and beyond. He was one of six trips -- troops who landed on the beach and in his case he was an amphibious Sherman tank who made it to be sure. Not all of them did. He was wounded in combat. He passed that the great age of 101.

We have heard from many speakers about the connection between constituencies and the military history of the Second World War. This was a theme of which I spoke about backing 1997 and my very first speech to this House and I will repeat one reference from that and that was about when I discovered and that was about when I discovered a small plot of REF graves in the churchyard in my constituency. I could not help but be moved by the inscription which had been put on the headstone of a young man whose parents the following, because Into the mosaic of victory, relay this priceless piece, our son." I thought that was a wonderful thing to do, in the depths of loss, to say that this was what they were doing for the victory of the country over Nazi Germany.

I salute them and their memory. How do you do justice to the Second World War in a few minutes? I would pick out one key factor without which everything else would have been different. That is the existence of the English Channel because there can be no doubt that if we had been contiguous with the continent of Europe, we would have suffered the same fate as all of our allies on that continent. There is no way in which we could have resisted being overrun and when you think about how difficult it was to invade and retake the continent for democracy in 1944, even when you had Britain as the launch area for that vision, you could realise how virtually impossible it would have been without the UK remaining outside Nazi German control.

And if you look at the areas covered by a simple listing of the camping stores that were awarded including the Atlantic Star, Italy Star, Masdar, Pacific Star, France And Germany Star, Arctic Star for the brave men of the Russian Navy and Royal Navy who risk everything to get supplies to Russia. Let's not forget one last thing, when the war ended, the country for which we went to war, Poland, remained under occupation by the Soviet Union and the big another 44 years of deterrence coupled with the nuclear balance of terror to ensure the eventual emergence of democracy in that country, too.



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It is a pleasure to speak in this debate on the sacrifice our communities made during the Second communities made during the Second World War and celebrate the victory of democracy over tyranny. I began of democracy over tyranny. I began VE Day at my local cemetery in my
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Sojan Joseph Portrait Sojan Joseph MP (Ashford, Labour)
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VE Day at my local cemetery in my constituency. There are 96 British military persons there, who made the sacrifice during World War II. They had flown from the site of the Battle of Britain Museum in Kent which houses the largest collection of memorabilia. I would urge you to visit this collection if you get the chance. It was the nearest location for the RAF to occupied France and it was just six minutes flying time away and as a result the air force and the abilities and the surrounding area was a regular target for bombs.

There was also long range shelling from German artillery batteries on the French coast and so it is little wonder coast and so it is little wonder this area soon became known as Hellfire Corner. After the Battle of Britain, it continued to play a vital role in the war with Commonwealth pilots flying reconnaissance missions from there and it played a pivotal part as a frontline fighter in the effort against bombs from Hitler. Operation Diver was record -- the codename to stop bombs before they reached stop bombs before they reached London.

It's meant it was used as the forward base for fighter aircraft to save countless lives by intercepting the flying bombs before they reach the capital. Despite that, all the planes that flew from there, the Spitfire that has a close connection with the aerodrome. To another part of my constituency, it was also a prime target for German bombers. There were around 4000 air raids and the siren sounded in the area around there. Although there were many the Telesis, as a result of the bombing raids, most of the devastation to place on March 20, most of the devastation to place on March 20, 1943.

On this day, the airway classic three minutes and led to the deaths of civilians and one RAF pilot on the ground and a further 78 people were injured. The surrounding areas were also badly affected and the bombs fell on the primary school and thankfully the siren sounded and the children managed to get into playground shelters. As a parent, I dread to manage the panic and fear caused by the bomb. It is little wonder that the appearance Russia the school to find out what happened to their children.

When they got home, they found that there were in hand. The head teacher received an award for her actions on that day and it ultimately saved the lives of the children. Today I'm pleased to have had the opportunity to speak in this debate and recognise the sacrifice made through the local community and as well as a positive legacy of all those who lived during World War II, we should recognise them as is our duty to thank them for their sacrifice.

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85 years ago, we saw the forces of fascism rise up to threaten democracy and freedom in Europe. democracy and freedom in Europe. Forces of darkness that seek to subjugate and exploit the people of these islands if they could prevail these islands if they could prevail but they did not prevail. We owe are contrary to the bravery of those who gave their lives. As, iterations
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Dave Doogan Portrait Dave Doogan MP (Angus and Perthshire Glens, Scottish National Party)
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gave their lives. As, iterations were lost on men, burly men at all, died at their prime in a foreign and distant place among the deafening and unrelenting roar of mechanised warfare, seeing friends and neighbours die, and drawing your last breath, desperate for a kind word or the soothing touch of a mother, and absent reassures, a short life slapshot, a far cry from the cheerful boys adventure, said, nobody got home soon. Many did not return home and those that that would never be the same again because that is the way it is with was in the past and a legitimate desire to lock it away in a box, out of sight which is nice if you could manage it, but many could not.

For many, it was these low heartbreak which was damaged by the physically or psychologically issues with husbands and fathers are returned. Quite able to access the men they Quite able to access the men they Total war has a long tail. And it is still visible on these islands 80 years later. In society, in the economy, and the war debt to the United States was only fully repaid in 2006. If they haven't evacuated the war stores from Coventry to the hills, I would not have got a job there in 1989.

And if I did not work for the Ministry of Defence I would not be standing here today. Scotland stood tall in those darkest of times, economically, culturally, and culturally. As did our neighbours in Scotland and Northern Ireland and England. Scotland's shipbuilding and locomotive manufacturing, agricultural output and production of steel all pivotal to the war effort. Young men fought and an army of older men and women toiled in the factories and fields equipping those at home and those in peril defending that homeland.

Scotland's industry in geography made Scotland the target, in the first aerial combat above the United Kingdom in the Second World War which happened in the Firth of Forth. Royal Navy ships were targeted. And Royal London's horrendous splits raged on for eight months and during the end of that period Clydebank lasted two lights. But the Luftwaffe killed 1200 civilians and injured a further 1000 civilians and destroyed the 8500 homes in that town. 85 years on, we see the forces of fascism rise up to threaten freedom.

And we must crash fascism down where it belongs. 80 years on autocracies are still alive and well in our world today. One of those who paid for our freedom with their own lives, we must look at the fragility of our freedoms. We owe them all so much, and the absolute least we can do to acknowledge their selfless sacrifice is to never ever forget that liberty and vigilance go hand in hand.

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Thank you Madam Deputy Speaker. This week I'm privileged to be attending commemoration events across the constituency to commemorate the 80th anniversary of commemorate the 80th anniversary of VE day, and the sacrifices of those who fought in the Second World War. who fought in the Second World War. Including veterans such as Tom Including veterans such as Tom Griffiths and David, who had a school named after them in France help bring liberate it. We will also help bring liberate it. We will also be reflecting on the 110th anniversary of the second Battle of anniversary of the second Battle of Ypres, when a regiment at almost 700 Ypres, when a regiment at almost 700 casualties.

Veterans in the Legion unveiled new commemoratives bench unveiled new commemoratives bench mark both this event and VE Day on Thursday. Whilst we take time to Thursday. Whilst we take time to remember those who have served in decades gone by, it is also decades gone by, it is also important to remember those who are committed to serve now and recently committed to serve now and recently in our Armed Forces. And give recognition to their contribution to our national security. My constituency has fantastic Armed Forces committee because of its strong sense of camaraderie and support.

We have a vibrant Royal British Legion present, as well as cadet groups across the county. There are so many people I could name involved in this work and in particular I want to pay tribute to someone who was recognised this year for his outstanding contribution to the Abergavenny Royal British the Abergavenny Royal British Legion. He works tirelessly for veterans across the constituency, with remembrance services and fundraising. I am so glad and thankful that this government is committed to strengthening support for our veterans and our Armed
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Catherine Fookes Portrait Catherine Fookes MP (Monmouthshire, Labour)
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Forces and community. Veterans today can face serious challenges, and they deserve the greatest level of respect for their service, the many respect for their service, the many sacrifices they have made, and this extends to the families who support them. I am proud that this them. I am proud that this government will put the Armed Forces Covenant fully into law to strengthen support for serving personnel and veterans. To ensure everyone continues to serve and everyone continues to serve and their families are treated with fairness and respect.

In attending fairness and respect. In attending commemoration events this week, all of us across the house will remember and recognise the bravery of those and recognise the bravery of those who fought in the Second World War. Both those who saw VE Day and those Both those who saw VE Day and those tragically who did not. We must also remember those who have served each remember those who have served each date since then from 1945 right up to the present day. We owe them a to the present day.

We owe them a huge debt of gratitude. To all those who served, those who continue to serve our great country. And who

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serve our great country. And who allow us to live in peace. Thank you Madam Deputy Speaker. I

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Thank you Madam Deputy Speaker. I am looking forward to marking VE Day in my constituency, part of the in my constituency, part of the proud military heritage and the beacon to be lit in Lockerbie and beacon to be lit in Lockerbie and the at a parade on Saturday. What the ministers and yourself might not know the end of the war in Europe was first announced in Dumfries. The was first announced in Dumfries. The then promised five jumps the gun and then promised five jumps the gun and announced the end of the war in Europe at 12 PM.

Local newspaper reports are clear that by the time Churchill made the official Churchill made the official announcement at 3 PM, despite pouring rain, the party was well
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David Mundell Portrait Rt Hon David Mundell MP (Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale, Conservative)
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pouring rain, the party was well underway in Dumfries. I want to reference two individuals who are so strongly related to the war but at different ends of the spectrum. One is Admiral air Chief Marshal Lord Hugh Dowding who was born the constituency. He masterminded the Battle of Britain. It is generally accepted that he played such a accepted that he played such a crucial role in ensuring that the Operation C Lion, the proposal to invade this silence did not succeed.

He was a tactical genius, knowing how to manage the RAF resource. And ensuring that there had been detailed preparations of the air defences. The other person is David Shanklin MBE and he was a great character in my local community growing up. Like a lot of people he was involved in an incident which was not an attack by the enemy but was a ship carrying munitions blowing up in Bombay Harbour. And that ship, it blew up and took down the ship that David was on as well.

About 1300 people perished in that incident and he was one of only six people on his vessel to survive. He took that as a message that he needed to dedicate the rest of his life to public service. That is what he did. He became a nurse, he was the first male nurse, a state registered nurse, in the south of Scotland. He went on to become a very distinguished nurse tutor. That is the sort of impact of the war, people making it a positive experience.

I also want to mention my own mother, she was 13 when the war began. As sooner she was 18 in 1944, she volunteered and went from the rural South of Scotland to Norfolk, and her abiding memory of the war was DJ, having cooked the night before for a full and overflowing canteen. She said the next morning going in and only being four old men deserve. But my aunt who remains in the south of Scotland, she also had to work on the farm.

She works throughout the war as a farm labourer because, as others have laboured, there were not meant to do that. We pay tribute to those people even if they did not have a formal capacity. The final point which I'm pleased a number of members have mentioned is VJ Day. The KSOB From Scotland were heavily involved and people never felt they got the acknowledgement they

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We still have a number of speakers so we will have a speaking limit at three minutes. Thank you Madam Deputy Speaker.

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Thank you Madam Deputy Speaker. VE Day especially this year offers us the chance to reflect with gratitude on the sacrifices made by gratitude on the sacrifices made by those in the Armed Forces, and those on the home front, to defend our way on the home front, to defend our way of life and freedom from tyranny. If you weeks ago, I had the pleasure of visiting a museum exhibition marking the 80th anniversary of Victory in Europe Day sub they take their jumping off point is a picture taken jumping off point is a picture taken at the time of a VE Day celebration.

You are invited to look at the joy You are invited to look at the joy on the faces, and the celebration, there are children dancing spontaneously, there's punting up on spontaneously, there's punting up on cakes being served. But also to reflect on what is going on behind the picture. The fact that people in the picture. The fact that people in those photos will be waiting for the return of loved ones for someone. return of loved ones for someone. And it may be waiting the return of loved ones who would never return.

And to reflect an extraordinary
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Jen Craft Portrait Jen Craft MP (Thurrock, Labour)
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sacrifice of those on the home front and what a change it made to their way of life. I took a moment to report on some of the lyrics sung by Vera Lynn. We often think of them as upbeat and patriotic, but even upbeat and patriotic, but even looking behind the words talking of the bluebirds over the White Cliffs the bluebirds over the White Cliffs of Dover, she talks about return to normality. Little Jimmy will get to sleep in his own little room again. sleep in his own little room again.

We can only think about what that meant every evening when the sirens meant every evening when the sirens go off, take the children down to an air raid shelter wondering if you will ever emerge and what you are will ever emerge and what you are emerging to. While it was a moment., It was also a moment perhaps to reflect on the great loss and reflect on the great loss and sacrifice that people made. It sacrifice that people made. It takes, a setup that is made to look like a D-Day celebration.

There are photos of those who might have been photos of those who might have been around the table. We are allowed to explore the stories of 10 very extraordinary residence, and the extraordinary residence, and the lives they lead during the war. I want to highlight that Charles Korda, an RAF navigator, who was awarded the medal for conspicuous gallantry. And Vera Robertson who was civilian from Thurrock who assisted people by sheltering them her flat in Norway. The war changed the course of people's lives and it brought about social change.

And briefly I would like to touch on the fact that 80 years ago, VE Day are the return of over 300,000 disabled servicemen and women. It is something which led to the first ever piece of legislation considering the needs of disabled people. The war did act as a catalyst to change and learn. In this spirit I hope that by commemorating the anniversary this year, one of our last chances to join with those who served, we also take the moment to learn our own lessons.

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Thank you Madam Deputy Speaker. My grandfather served in the second
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My grandfather served in the second war. I was there old enough to ask about this before he passed away. I was was very proud to have had a relative taking part in the second war. I was proud he had served in the Desert Rats. I was honoured to follow his footsteps when I served there during operations in Iraq 65 years later. The Second World War left an indelible mark on our nation. Impact ripples throughout so much of our culture, heritage, and identity.

I'm certain it had a huge influence on my interest in the military led to my own desire to serve. My former regiment saw action in France, Tunisia, India, Burma. And the Italian campaign in Burma, operating behind Japanese lines. These were campaigns that had a crucial role in securing victory over Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. My own Huntingdon constituency pedicure throughout the war. An RAF base opened in 1941 the Royal Australian Air Force operating there. In the United States Army Air Force soon arrived and was closely linked with what was known as Hell's Angels, the arrival of B-17 in 1932.

They launched the first US Army bombing raid over Nazi Germany. It remains there to this day and is embedded in the local community across Huntington. RF with them was also a key player from 1942. It was an elite unit tasked with the bomber raids over Germany. Placating the target at a time when night-time bombing was suffering from poor results due to missing the target. The role was never without risk. From 1942 until 1945, the path rate for a total of 50,492 sorties against many targets.

At least 3727 members were killed. The activity is a significant reminder of the vital role, and the US personnel throughout the war. To conclude, I pay tribute to all those who did so much for freedom. People asked to do something that no one should have to. Incredible sacrifices, enduring suffering and expensing losses. Second war was a defining moment in our nation's history. More so than any living memory. As those who have experienced first hand memories, it is easy to forget what was done by so many.

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VE Day captain Harry Richardson of the RAF in Ayrshire was half a of the RAF in Ayrshire was half a world away. VE did not mean the end of all conflict. The war with Japan continued despite extensive efforts continued despite extensive efforts in Europe. Captain Richardson was still on active duty in India as a still on active duty in India as a bomber pilot. While the country celebrated, Captain Richardson and many others fought to keep the many others fought to keep the peace.

He flew 62 bombing missions over Germany, Europe, Burma and
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Elaine Stewart Portrait Elaine Stewart MP (Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock, Labour)
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Malaysia until 1947. When Japan surrendered leaving the RAF as a Flight Lieutenant, he won their aircrew met and the defence medal. This year Captain Richardson celebrated his 107th birthday. And will travel to London for VE Day. Commemorations. It is also important to pay tribute to those who have fallen. This week I will visit untold stories and an exhibition. Richard and Lauren Carnahan of the greatest bore projects present, local stories from the war.

Aiming to inspire our younger generation. One story is of Corporal Norman Carmel who joined the Pioneer Corps leaving his wife Mary and four- year-old son Malcolm in Dunkirk in 1940, Norman was taken as a period prisoner of war to Poland. By August 1940, his wife had passed away from cancer and his eight-month-old son had also died. Corporal Campbell died of a cardiac arrest in 1943 two years before VE Day. He was laid to rest in crack of in 1948.

The story is a stark reminder of sacrifices made by so many and the loved ones during this war. As we celebrate VE Day 80 years on, it is right to remember everyone who has made that possible, and we thank them.

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Eight years ago when the guns fell silent, the long bitter war against tyranny in Europe was over. Britain's piece was marked not only by celebration but gratitude reflection and all that had been sacrificed to make it possible. sacrificed to make it possible. Across my constituency that peace had been fully and faithfully earned with courage, result and a great with courage, result and a great cost. From every corner of the constituency, men and women stepped constituency, men and women stepped forward to serve in the air, sea, and the frontline of their home.

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and the frontline of their home. The names are etched into memorials across our communities, not only to remind us who they were but of what they gave. My constituency with its they gave. My constituency with its long-standing tradition stood as a long-standing part of that service. In the hills, valleys and beyond. Among them were those who served with distinction in local regiments such as the South Wales boarders and Welsh Regiment. Both of which saw action across Europe, North Africa and the Far East.

The Royal Navy also bore our town's name with pride. HMS Bracken, a world class destroyer served with honour in the Mediterranean and Atlantic. Other served in different ways with equal resolve. In Swansea, local man was conscripted as Bevin boys, sent into the deep and dangerous scenes of the South Wales conflict to mine the coal that powered our fleets and fuelled the wartime economy. Their work was exhausting and often overlooked with -- but vital to victory and many were not released until 1948.

In the fields of my constituency the rhythms of farming did not cease. Welsh agricultural workers and those who stood behind them kept the nation fed. Across the constituency they took on vital responsibilities in munitions factories and hospitals, in civil defence at the heart of their communities. Their contribution was lasting. It shaped the piece that followed and the freedoms we live by today. I was proud to attend the commemorations last Saturday organised by Jade from the Swansea Valley Armed Forces club whether contribution was honoured.

Let our remembrance be a promise to live out their example, to work together for the public good and never to forget what was given in hope of a fairer future, and finally admit pay tribute to RAF Royal veteran John Gwyn, a worthy guest of honour at

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Before reflecting on the anniversary itself I want to pay tribute to the Royal British Legion and its volunteers. I have a dicky and its volunteers. I have a dicky bow here, the Bollington branch of the Legion, one of the oldest in the country has kindly given me and I will wear it with pride on Thursday. They along with other Matt Legion army volunteers across the wider
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Tim Roca Portrait Tim Roca MP (Macclesfield, Labour)
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army volunteers across the wider Cheshire area and the country, we owe them a debt of gratitude for their dedication which is a living legacy of service. During the war, communities across Macclesfield answered the call to duty. Mills and factories pivoted to produce a central war material, from uniforms to parachutes and engine components, helping to sustain our Armed Forces. Thousands of the iconic Lancaster bombers were assembled at Woodford Aerodrome and in the frontlines the Cheshire Regiment served in the bloody forests of Africa and on the beaches.

Their bravery and sacrifice part of the great national effort we are talking about here today and in the air, RAF pilots from Macclesfield also did their bit. Every was a member of the Macclesfield aeronautical Society joining the RAF at the outbreak of the war and he went on to fly 60 missions in the thick of the action from the outset, shot down in the channel in July 1940, he still managed to take back to the Downing plains in the following weeks. But on 28 September, his Hurricane was attacked whilst patrolling the Isle of Wight.

Witnesses saw his plane ablaze before he bailed down and tragically his parachute failed to open. His death was front-page news in the Macclesfield career which praised him as a glorious example of courage, gameness and determination. So even with victory, the cost was staggering. 400,000 lives lost, cities bombed, homes destroyed. Economically the war left our country exhausted and psychologically as members have pointed out, the trauma ran deep for those who fought, those who waited, and those who mourned. And as we meet here today, wall once again strikes across our continent, invasion of Ukraine bringing vaccines we hoped never to see again, cities in ruins, civilians targeted, millions displaced.

So it is for us a bitter reminder that peace can be taken for granted and the values we fought for still under threat, that tyranny and checked only grows bolder. VE Day is not just a day of remembrance. It's a call for resolve, a reminder that we in Macclesfield and across the United Kingdom choose peace but that we must be ready to defend it. And I want to end with some of my favourite words from the man who led us to that conflict, in all our long history have never seen a greater day than this.

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woman has done their best. (SPEAKING IN WELSH) is a pleasure

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(SPEAKING IN WELSH) is a pleasure to take part in today's important debate. The end of the Second World War in Europe was a defining moment in the history of Wales and beyond. It brought the entire six years of conflict were an estimate of 300,000 conflict were an estimate of 300,000 Welshmen served in the military with 15,000 killed. And this man may have been many miles away from the frontline, however it was still targeted by bombing raids, including targeted by bombing raids, including on strategic ports.

The island played a vital part in the war played a vital part in the war efforts. RAF fighter crews flew. efforts. RAF fighter crews flew. These airfield 's were responsible for training hosting thousands of
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Llinos Medi Portrait Llinos Medi MP (Ynys Môn, Plaid Cymru)
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for training hosting thousands of service people with 1378 men of the RAF and 408 officers and women of W RAF based on RAF mourner by the end of the war. The legacy of the war can still be felt today. The valley remains a centre of military and civil aviation with a landing ground used now. A source of highly skilled jobs and education for local people with a partnership between (SPEAKING IN WELSH) and Bangkok delivering friendships to local young people including aerospace engineering maintenance.

On the home front, the impact was felt too. The island hosted evacuee children from Liverpool and Manchester, helping to keep children safe during the air attacks from Germany. They were also over 40,000 Welsh people who could not speak English. Especially in the western parts of Wales such as Ynys Mon. To address this, the BBC did broadcast names of the bore for around 20 minutes of every day in Welsh. Such programming would pave the way for (SPEAKING IN WELSH) decades later.

Rationing of course still impact the everyday lives of the people in Ennis more many years after the war's end. Those who sacrificed so much on both the home front and in the fields of conflict did so in the name of peace and order. The rule-based international order which emerged from the war is now under increasing strain. Far right rising across the world, we must be bold in confronting them. We have an obligation to honour the sacrifices of generations before us by importing the legacy which they let -- left us.

I want to thank the organisers of the service on VE Day to commemorate the contribution that Wales and Ennis more made in the war and in bringing about a more and in bringing about a more peaceful world. I would like to close may contribute in to today's close may contribute in to today's debate by affirming this message and to know how important it is that we honour those who fought and honour those who fought and sacrificed so much for us.
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Daniel Francis Portrait Daniel Francis MP (Bexleyheath and Crayford, Labour)
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Is a privilege to speak in this debate to commemorate the 80th anniversary of VE Day. I'm proud to serve as a member of Parliament and represent constituency which is home to around 2,000 veterans. My constituency's proximity to the Royal Arsenal in Woolwich in the south-east corner of London, back in the day the Royal Arsenal was home to one of the biggest mission factories in the UK with 32,000 employees producing guns, shells, cartridges, cases and bombings and therefore my constituency became a prime target for Nazi bombing.

While many residents of the constituency were fighting overseas, my constituency was playing its part to support the war efforts because in Crayford it was home to the Vickers factory which again was producing machine guns, anti-aircraft predictors, fuses and the cases for the barns bouncing bomb. And this lay green heavy anti-aircraft battery was built in the late 1930s, built inside the London and artillery zone. Today the cunning placement fire command post, pill boxes and the air raid shelters still standing and after successful local campaign in 2010, the site is now a grade 2 listed.

Across the constituency there are a number of war memorials including the garden of remembrance in Bexleyheath, Singapore's church and the Crayford war memorial garden. A window at the church commemorates three members of the women's voluntary services who died in a V1 explosion in July 1944. In total, 66 people were killed and 184 properties were destroyed 7,000 damaged in the area around Crayford High Street, and across the constituency there were hundreds of more bodies destroyed as a result of the Nazi bombing.

I'd like to pay tribute to the Eastwick and willing war memorial, for the work they do and the brave soldiers who served in the Second World War. It covers parts of my constituency but also that of the honourable member Quebec CNC cup and the carrier extensive work to ensure that there has been a memorial in place for local people who gave their lives and they hold an incredibly moving service every November. I also want to remember the hard work and dedication of the two Royal British Legion branch as my constituency, the Bexley Welling branch and thank them for the work To recognise the important contributions in the war effort.

I look forward to joining them in attending a number of events in my

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constituency on Thursday to commemorate VE Day and to be able to pay my respects to those who made the ultimate sacrifice for us. Thank you. It's an honour to
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Ellie Chowns Portrait Ellie Chowns MP (North Herefordshire, Green Party)
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Thank you. It's an honour to speak in this debate commemorating VE Day, and I know it's of great significance to many in my constituency where we have a particularly significant proportion of the publishing who are veterans of military families first the Royal British Legion has encouraged us to ensure that the stories are veterans about the centre of our commemoration events this week and so I would like to share with the House the story of my grandfather James Patterson. He was a navigator serving on a Stirling bomber command on 16 August 1943, his plane was shot down in south-east France.

Only two of the crew of seven survived. My grandfather was one of them. He was rescued by the resistance in the area of Ontario and he was saved by three families who hit him at great personal risk. Hit him in the town, hit him in the forest in the hills nearby and eventually four months later, he was smuggled out over the Pyrenees to safety. Without the bravery of those families, my mother would never have been born. I would would never have been born.

I would I want to pay a special tribute to those who hit him in his bakery. In 2014 my father's researchers reconnected my family with that family, and we have since remained in contact. I was honoured to visit last year, and he sadly since has died, he was one of the daughters of the family. And after whom my aunt this name. As you remember this week the bravery of all those like my grandfather who fought in the Armed Forces for freedom in Europe, let us also remember the bravery often unsung of those who fought, who resisted in so many different ways, at great personal risk to themselves and their children, to save the lives of strangers.

Let us all hope that we would do the same. And as we challenge the forces of the far right, as we recognise and remember the resistance of those 80 years ago who made the ultimate sacrifice to defend Europe against Nazism, let the memory of all those who showed such bravery never be forgotten.

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Thank you Madam Deputy Speaker. I'm grateful for the opportunity to I'm grateful for the opportunity to participate in such a significant debate as we celebrate the 80th anniversary of the Allied Victory in anniversary of the Allied Victory in Europe Day and Victory over Japan Day. Today we honour all the men and women who gave us the freedom we women who gave us the freedom we enjoy today. Who fought against fascism for our freedom, our fascism for our freedom, our dignity, and our liberation.

Nearly dignity, and our liberation. Nearly 1/3 of these men and women came from the Indian subcontinent, 2 1/2 million Hindus, Muslims, and Sikhs, the largest volunteer army ever seen in history. One of these members in history. One of these members might and father who served in what might and father who served in what was known as Malaya. Before in my great grandfather fought in the great grandfather fought in the First World War. Growing up my parents recounted stories about the sacrifice my forebear is made during sacrifice my forebear is made during both world wars, but I did not see these contributions recognised elsewhere.

Not in history textbooks at school, not in the documentaries on TV, not in the films on the big
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Jas Athwal Portrait Jas Athwal MP (Ilford South, Labour)
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screen. Although mentioned today, 2 screen. Although mentioned today, 2 1/2 million men simply airbrushed out of history. Despite a valiant effort to expose this history it effort to expose this history it remains all too easy to surrender, to forget the historic unity to forget the historic unity especially flashpoints of racial or religious division. This VE Day we religious division. This VE Day we must remain firm in our pursuit to the truth of our past. The forgotten the truth of our past.

The forgotten stories of how Christians, Hindus, Jews, Muslims, and seeks rallied Jews, Muslims, and seeks rallied together to achieve a common goal. Through paying tributes to these Through paying tributes to these stories of unity, we can fight the lies that tell us our perceived differences define and divide us. differences define and divide us. The Second World War was bloody, brutal, and barbaric. Within this violent context, there are glimmers of hope, stories of hope and unity, of togetherness instead of division, respect of our rituals over denigration.

Stories to drown out the nasty noise narrative we see online and on our streets that pitch one religion against another. Judge us by our skin and dictate the respect we deserve based on religious identity. Stories to remind us that despite modern day racial tensions and flashes of sectarian violence and hostilities, we can work together. We can stand united. We do have a shared history. I pay tribute to those brave men and women whose resilience and fortitude built this country, whose shoulders we stand on and enjoy the freedoms we do today.

Thank you.

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Thank you Madam Deputy Speaker. Victory in Europe Day is not only a Victory in Europe Day is not only a time to celebrate at a time to reflect and to remember. I'm privileged to represent a community that does all three. Just recently I met with two veterans of war, both
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Robbie Moore Portrait Robbie Moore MP (Keighley and Ilkley, Conservative)
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from Keighley drove one of the first wagons into a concentration camp in April 1945. Notorious for the April 1945. Notorious for the location and the death of Anne Frank, her family and over 70,000 inmates, in the cruellest and most inmates, in the cruellest and most unspeakable of conditions, the work of Mr Jackson and his unit not only began the process of repatriations began the process of repatriations for the survivors but provided us with a record of that terrible place with a record of that terrible place for the world to see.

I also met for the world to see. I also met with him are from Ilkley. She was a Wren radar mechanic installing cutting-edge radars and ships cutting-edge radars and ships including HMS Vanguard. In fact she took part in the original VE day took part in the original VE day celebrations in Glasgow 80 years celebrations in Glasgow 80 years ago. The groups working to remember the memory of that great nation, that great generation and educate that great generation and educate the young, are strong in my constituency.

Our cadet forces are a constant presence flying the flag from modern Armed Forces. An organisation called Men Of Worth, particularly researched hundreds of men and women from the first and Second World War, and their stories and legacies. I want to thank Andy Wade and his team for their incredible work. Their home guard unit, they are still going strong. When I recently visited them I was thoroughly impressed by the traditions that they are still keeping alive. And of course, even once the fighting is over, our armed forces continue to remember them.

That also continues with our fantastic Armed Forces and veterans breakfast club helping bring vital social network to veterans and service men across the Ilkley area. Recently Mark scourge in the team raised money and awareness for veterans in crisis. And across the whole of the constituency, we are incredibly proud of our veterans. To conclude, I wish to make reference to the soldiers for whom 80 years ago this was not the end. Victory over Japan Day will take another gruelling three months to take place.

And right up until the atomic bombs were dropped, was widely feared that a full invasion of Japan was inevitable. So I would like to thank them for their service. Their dedication and their commitment to our nation. And so I would like to wish all members of this house and my constituents a very happy VE Day. I look forward to celebrating with

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Every anniversary commemorating the Allies victory is a significant one. The triumph of liberal democracy over authorities and fascism is a lesson in history that we must never forget. And the we must never forget. And the sacrifice by so many courageous men and women must always be remembered. This year is more significant as we This year is more significant as we mark 80 years since the end of World War II, and this could be the last War II, and this could be the last significant anniversary that we have surviving veterans.

I extend my most surviving veterans. I extend my most profound gratitude to those in my profound gratitude to those in my constituency and all parts. And they fought so we could have the fought so we could have the privilege we enjoy the world today. One of which we enjoy freedom and One of which we enjoy freedom and security and understanding. I will be a darker place when we lose the last of the greatest generation. Yesterday in my constituency, I had the great privilege of attending a VE Day party in celebration to rival that held on the first VE Day.

Much merriment, gratitude, and patriotism and serious pride. My thanks go to everyone involved, and for the organisational prowess and for bringing the community together. I would also like to pay a small part in paying tribute and remembering those we lost during the war and those who have passed away since. A World War II veteran ball in my constituency who was in Africa Normandy and Greece. He was the Second World War which is soldier to receive the military medal three times.

His third military medal was awarded for the " Greatest personal courage" and an example of action. I would like to remember two Spitfire pilots, who were part of the photo reconnaissance unit. There are countless stories throughout the world. Normal people doing extraordinary things in the name of freedom. The museum in our town centre at an exhibition looking at the contribution our community made 80 years ago. You will find some amazing stories by some amazing people. The spirit of togetherness and solidarity from the war from the stories my grandparents shared with me as a child.

They will live with me forever. A grandfather came to this country from Jamaica in 1941 to serve the king and country on his British passport. Many men like him came to not just help defeat the Germans but rebuild Britain. How lucky are we that they did. Without lucky are we that they did. Without the blood sweat and tears of men and women from across the Commonwealth, fighting, we could not and would not have won the war. As we celebrate 80 years since the end of the most years since the end of the most terrible global war in modern history...
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Monica Harding Portrait Monica Harding MP (Esher and Walton, Liberal Democrat)
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Far East, and pilots lost over Egypt. We are privileged to have veterans were still with us. The Constituents celebrated his 100th Constituents celebrated his 100th birthday last month. Born in America he served as a Marine engineer he served as a Marine engineer clearing mines to ensure the safe passage of Allied ships, and Antwerp passage of Allied ships, and Antwerp which became a central point for Allied supplies. He told me celebrated VE Day in three celebrated VE Day in three countries, first in Holland where he celebrated the British troops.

And celebrated the British troops. And it was still going the party when he left and returned five days later. The party lasted a month or more. He The party lasted a month or more. He returned to France and parting some more before ending up where he found himself in front of Buckingham Palace still partying. He came to live in England in my constituency and we are lucky to have him. Our local area suffered during the Blitz. It was once described as doodlebug Ali due to the German invasion.

One of them fell on the court in the constituency killing 20 men of the Welsh Guards training battalion beating that they and their competition. On that day, Bruce white was instrumental in the design. The people of the constituency play their part as part of units which formed a vital anti- aircraft battery. The women's land Army operated there, and headquarters were moved to my constituency. Over 150 local women works providing provisions for millions of men, and oversaw 7000 canteens and its facilities serve more than three and half million cups of tea every day.

When the war finally ended, the hotel played host to the official celebrations with cabaret and hundreds of guests. Commemorating 80 years with victory in Europe, we owe a profound debt to those who make sacrifices, to bring about a better world. We must never lose sight of the profound blessing and fragility of peace.

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Thank you Madam Deputy Speaker.
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Lillian Jones Portrait Lillian Jones MP (Kilmarnock and Loudoun, Labour)
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Last Friday I visited in my constituency to witness the signing of an Armed Forces Covenant. It was a pleasure and an honour to see the continued commitment to our veterans and acknowledgement of those who lost their lives in the service of our country. The timing was perfect, and we celebrate the 80th anniversary of Victory in Europe Day, VE Day, and we remember those who made the ultimate sacrifice to defeat Hitler's Nazis. This is one of the last opportunities to pay tribute to living Second World War veterans who served, sacrificed to defend our way of life.

The Scottish contribution up to 8 May 1945 was truly significant. Encompassing military service, Daschle output and civilian support. Scotland looked small in size but played a disproportionately large role in the British war effort. The generation are true heroes, and the back on which this country was built. I want to tell the house more about contribution to the war effort. In my constituency it was requisitioned by the government a part in 1940. A few days later the troops marched in and took over to be used as an oil and fuel depot.

In July of that year, the British government gave a load of £1000. 80 years ago, it would have taken an average worker five years to earn that amount. It was wonderful to be able to see the original amount from the Chancellor which remains a treasured piece of history. At this time every part of our nation united, Scotland, England, Wales, Northern Ireland came together at a time of need. The club was no exception. Many stepped up and did their duty in the name of service to our nation.

Sadly many of them paid the ultimate price. They never returned home. I want to remember them, and may we never When the war came to its conclusion, the generous loan was repaid in full, or be interest free. After the war time, and with the efforts of the Italian and German prisoners are for, Rugby Park was rebuilt with the ball returning in April the war time, and with the efforts of the Italian and German prisoners are for, Rugby Park was rebuilt with the ball returning in April 18 -- 1945.

VE Day was a moment of pride, marking the culmination of years of sacrifice and determination. The lessons of the Second World War and the security challenges we face today reinforced the need to face our adversities together through the strength of our alliances like NATO and learn the lessons of history as a meaningful way we can pay tribute and honour the sacrifices made by so many veterans who fought for...

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Order order. One of the most moving accounts this week that I read was that of this week that I read was that of 101-year-old Ruth club are, Jewish refugee and mechanical the Lancaster bombers that she spoke not of celebration but of sacrifice. When asked for her opinion on yesterday's asked for her opinion on yesterday's celebrations she said yes, we won the war. It's good to celebrate that the war. It's good to celebrate that we won the war. And what that means for democracy.

But for me, when I think of VE Day I think of the pilot think of VE Day I think of the pilot with whom I fell in love, the only man I have loved. And he flew many man I have loved. And he flew many successful missions but his last was his last. He never came home. To me I think of the cost of war. War is I think of the cost of war. War is not something you celebrate. It's something you remember, something you look back on and reflect on how you look back on and reflect on how it was a failure of man, a failure to reach an outcome that didn't to reach an outcome that didn't involve hundreds of thousands of young men being killed.

She went on, young men being killed. She went on, we must never stop always working to ensure we don't end up in the scenario again. Where more people are slaughtered. And that means you must always have to stand up for
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Carla Lockhart Portrait Carla Lockhart MP (Upper Bann, Democratic Unionist Party)
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democracy. Those words should weigh heavy on all our shoulders. In this heavy on all our shoulders. In this significant week. I want to take this opportunity as well to commend this opportunity as well to commend the community across my constituency whose efforts have been immense in whose efforts have been immense in this significant break, across our towns and villages and housing as, the atmosphere is one of pride, of remembrance, lampposts and balls proudly decorated with the national flag, banners all part of the flag, banners all part of the collective effort to both celebrate and commemorate the great Allied victory.

There is no greater source of pride than seeing our communities come together, not only to mark this historic triumph but to remember historic triumph but to remember those who secured the civil and religious liberties that we enjoy religious liberties that we enjoy today. I am unafraid to hold my views because of the bravery, views because of the bravery, willingness to serve in the ultimate sacrifice made by those who stood against fascism, tyranny, genocide and racism, aggression and and racism, aggression and suppression. And want to know the exemplary effort of Upper Bann, Portadown in particular was a key industrial centre playing a role through its engineering, textile and transport industries.

Brown of House grant 19th-century building I spoke of and I thank the Minister for her visit, was the headquarters for the US state army. General Eisenhower visited himself, the D-Day landings were planned from there. Banbridge was not found wanting. It was central to the agricultural supply chain when they participated in the declare victory. Young men from Banbridge served with distinction on our Armed Forces. This is only the tip of the iceberg on how Northern Ireland contributed to the overall victory.

Northern Ireland stepped up, and I want to clearly note in this House today how thankful we are for the United effort from every corner of our nation.

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The 80th anniversary of VE Day is a time for us to remember and honour those that fought to defend our freedoms, values and our people. This is also a time to recognise the contribution of veterans across our country continuing to make their communities get so many of our communities get so many of our veterans their service to this country and commitment to fighting for our values does not end when they leave the military. I do like to take this opportunity to tell the House about once a veteran for my community, my clients.

I didn't know community, my clients. I didn't know him for very long but one of the privileges we have in this place as we get to meet people who you meet and instinctively know that they are and instinctively know that they are the best of us and that was just what Mike was. Accepted the military for seven years and was a member of
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Natasha Irons Portrait Natasha Irons MP (Croydon East, Labour)
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for seven years and was a member of the Royal British Legion more than 30 years but for many years Mike also ran the final campaign to ensure that bottle one soldiers who returned from fighting and were institutionalised with PTSD were probably honoured and given their rightful place in history. His campaign led to 26 servicemen being buried in unmarked -- who were buried in unmarked -- who were buried in unmarked graves given the dignified burials they deserved. He wanted to ensure their memories lived on and before Christmas asked me to light a candle for them in Parliament, but our can deliver Members of Parliament quickly turned into a full on candle lighting ceremony at the tomb of the unknown Warrior in Westminster Abbey.

Some questioned whether we needed to insurance for the bugler. Sadly he passed away before our ceremony could take place but with the support of his family and friends we held our ceremony is planned. So in March it was a privilege to welcome his family, friends, local councillors, community leaders from the family set and pathfinders, members of the Royal British Legion, army cadets, members of the Croydon veterans committee, Minister for and the Member for Selly Oak, flag bearers and a bugler to Westminster Abbey for our candle ceremony.

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today. It is great this houses commemorating the historic victory, and a time when we are often asked to apologise for so much, it's important to recognise the victory we had in the name of democracy and freedom throughout this world. Members will be aware and it's good Members will be aware and it's good to see the Minister in his place, to see the Minister in his place, regarding the heroism which he so richly deserves, I was amazed by the
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Jim Shannon Portrait Jim Shannon MP (Strangford, Democratic Unionist Party)
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number of people who didn't quite understand until they watch the TV drama indeed Northern Ireland soldiers were important to the war effort. There was no conscription and they did so throughout her freedom. It's still the case now. Given the role during the troubles for top what the debate has highlighted to me today is whilst as a youngster I was told about the essential action of Northern Ireland and to men women in the war, the UK to secure victory over the Nazis and over Japan in Asia.

My city of Strangford has given much of their lives with war memorials. And hundreds of young men and indeed some women gave their all for King and country at that time. Northern Ireland contributed significantly to the what reduction. That will be the weaponry, the munitions, the aircraft, tanks and small arms or build Northern Ireland. The opportunities came from women. They were subject to a bar. Similarly women in the axillary services for the armed forces and an additional agricultural engineering, 250 women employed and 12.5 thousand women employed in Northern Ireland.

For this reason those from both sides of the community, both from Roman Catholic, and from Protestant and from Nationalist and Unionist will be celebrating with a full heart of family stories and memories handed down through the generations. Some 44,000 I think it was that served in uniform, some of those 10% did not come back. A Belfast Blitz simply saw thousands of people lose their lives and I attended a memorial to the young RAF and Army men who were killed also in the Blitz some time ago.

The role of Northern Ireland for the Allies can be overstated for top proud as Strangford MP to not simply have a reef in their memory but to raise my hand in salute for those who fill the gaps and lost their lives in the Blitz. Salute them all again today and honour their sacrifice and the best we can honour them is to recreate the British spirit in our children and grandchildren and remind them of the cost we all hold so dearly. We will remember them and the names -- ninth of May we will remember them.



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In the archives we will be celebrating VE Day in the piece we cherish today as a result of the tenacity of the wartime generation. And may take just a moment to set the scene of what VE Day was like in
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Luke Charters Portrait Mr Luke Charters MP (York Outer, Labour)
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the scene of what VE Day was like in York? After nearly 6 long years of war, the city burst into life with spontaneous celebration. And for the first time since 1939, York Minster was lit up, it's great bells ringing out across the city. And there's even a recording on YouTube if the Minister spells from that day with a comment that the bellringers and the rest of the nation might have been a little out of practice. But on the day they run out I rang out with the sound of triumph and relief.

It was truly a suburban tapestry of victory in York. Canadians serving personnel were seen dancing, driving about York on their motorbikes. And bonfires were lit across the city, including throughout the many communities that make up my constituency. And one particular memorable bonfires did in Bishopthorpe on the very site where the wonderful Bishopthorpe junior school now stands, a simple then and now of hope for the next generation. And I wrote to all of the fantastic primary schools in my constituency, tasking our talented pupils to draw a York Street party celebrating VE Day, and one of those drawings is on their way to you.

The winning school is Ellington Church of England primary school, who is just a stones throw away from RAF Elvington where French pilots flew alongside British pilots for the last years of the war. And I will be writing to the lucky people to congratulate them soon. York played a huge role in second war and continues to do so today, and we are home to the Queen Elizabeth barracks, home to the HQ of the second medical Brigade. And many inspirational serving personnel, and their families who served our country, and I'm truly privileged to have them in my constituency.

We also have Yorkshire air Museum in Elvington who makes a huge contribution to the local area, and this week it will be hosting we will meet again weekend to celebrate VE Day and take residents back to the 1940s. And finally, I must say that York was truly magical in its contributions to the war effort. It really contributed to the profound victory we had in Europe, and I pay tribute to the families that played their part.

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Thank you. It's a real privilege to be able to contribute to this to be able to contribute to this debate today. It's right that we take the time to pause and reflect take the time to pause and reflect about the sacrifices that the great generation have made, not only the generation have made, not only the generation that fought in the war that mostly are no longer with us, that mostly are no longer with us, but even those who remember the war as a child are getting smaller and smaller by the day.

My mum often smaller by the day. My mum often talks about how her earliest memory being the party and my grandparents being the party and my grandparents dressed up. She didn't... It was only later she realised what it was. only later she realised what it was. As the honourable member reminded As the honourable member reminded us, about why often that generation didn't talk about what they had didn't talk about what they had experienced and the difficulties of what they had shared.

For the new
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Katrina Murray Portrait Katrina Murray MP (Cumbernauld and Kirkintilloch, Labour)
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what they had shared. For the new town of Cumbernauld was created, the people of the villages that made up my constituency were minors, where weavers, and farmworkers. They all played a massive part in fuelling the nation, feeding the nation, and contributing to what we now call the defence industries. People that we don't remember every year on Remembrance Sunday but it's important to pay tribute to their Because they were a big part of the war effort as those who fought in the armed services.

My family were those essential workers. My grandfather Sam Laidlaw, an engineer and paper mill which had been repurposed for essential war work was my other grandad John Murray, a dairy man is hands were women and the prisoners of war brought in daily from a camp up the road. My great-aunt Helen Murray, in Clydebank during the two days of the Blitz. None of them ever talked about it. I also recognise we are representing Newtown, it's very difficult to look at the war memorial and to think and to not think of the town is today.

The seventh biggest in Scotland. But actually to think of it as the windage -- the village it once was those names, so familiar, those names so similar. Generation, a full generation of a village wiped out and it would be the same across this nation. I'm glad we've been able to spend time today to pay tribute to all of those, whatever the role they played, whether it was in the Armed Forces, in the mills, the farms, the

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mines, thank you. I'm always humbled by the history of this chamber but more so than of this chamber but more so than ever today. It was a government of national that steered the United national that steered the United Kingdom through the Second World War. The names of Churchill, Attlee, War. The names of Churchill, Attlee, Eden, Bevan all deserved to go through history full stop Conservative, Liberal and Labour MPs, United and service to defend our nation, our allies and our values in the struggle against values in the struggle against tyranny.

As we commemorate VE day 80
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tyranny. As we commemorate VE day 80 years on I begin with a tribute to our political leaders of the time because it was not inevitable that history would take the course that it did. In the early summer of 1940

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there were some voices calling on us to make peace with Hitler. Thank him for giving way, he

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Thank him for giving way, he talks about commemoration, on that talks about commemoration, on that point a branch of the Royal British Legion was one of the first of its kind in the country set up in 1921 after 109 soldiers from the town after 109 soldiers from the town died in the First World War. With that in mind will he congratulate the Royal British Legion branch in the Royal British Legion branch in Westport and for the excellent VE day commemoration event was hosted?

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day commemoration event was hosted? I will happily congratulate the branch of the Royal British Legion and in his constituency and those and in his constituency and those are all cross-country doing such noble work. Some after the fall of noble work. Some after the fall of France saying that despite heroism of Dunkirk our military was on the back foot. To use a modern phrase, a back foot. To use a modern phrase, a small number advocated for talks with Germany might even have with Germany might even have suggested that we didn't have many cards to play, thank goodness their advice at that time was so advice at that time was so emphatically rejected.

The decision to stand against Hitler's Germany in 1940 was not just born out of self- preservation, it was so much more. It was the decision of a free and proud country saying that aggressors cannot be rewarded. That's a hateful ideology must be opposed and that our allies are worth fighting for. Those are timeless lessons. The greatest step we although is to the brave men and women who served and sacrificed so much during the worst conflict that humanity has ever known. In my constituency Hatfield is rightly famous for being the birthplace of the Geoffrey to Havilland mosquito fighter-bombers, one of the RAF's most effective weapons against a lift worth, an example of the ingenuity so crucial to the war effort.

Known as the wooden wonder more than 6.5 thousand mosquitoes were delivered Armed Forces over the course of the conflict and this believe that more than 3,000 were built on site in Hatfield. The neighbours and well in Garden City had an integral role to play as well, a few miles north and east of happy old the aerodrome started out in 1940 as a decoy factory -- factory during Luftwaffe bombers away from Hatfield aerodrome. After victory in the Battle of Britain and the threat of bombing raids using the aerodrome officially became an RAF base in 1943 and operated as an important flying school.

When Garden City was also a sanctuary for Jewish people fleeing the evil of Nazi tyranny. With civilians welcome from 1933 onwards and Applecross hostel established on the west side of town. Thanks to the records of Welwyn Garden City interfaith group we know the story of Sam Otto, 21 year old Jewish man who escaped the Nazis in Leipzig, travelled bravely across Europe and was welcomed into the hostel in 1939. He said on his arrival, if the hostel wasn't heaven it must be next door to it.

Today well in Garden City is home to a thriving Ukrainian population as our community once again opens its arms to those in greatest need. As we commemorate VE and VJ day I feel exceptionally fortunate to stand in the Commons chamber were political predecessors had the resolve to stand united against Nazi tyranny and I'm equally proud to represent Welwyn Hatfield to recognise some of the contributions made to the war effort and to simply say thank you for everyone who fought for freedom.



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As we reflect on this historic moment the 80th anniversary of the day we welcome the significant day we welcome the significant contributions across our communities contributions across our communities and our country and our Commonwealth. We've heard some very moving powerful contributions today in this debate from across the in this debate from across the chamber. My own part of the country Colchester played a pivotal part in Colchester played a pivotal part in the Second World War, our residents served on the frontline of the home served on the frontline of the home front, our industry stepped up, our rivers and coastlines were fortified as part of the Eastern command line.

Many of those fortifications can still be seen in our Castle Park and still be seen in our Castle Park and along the river. They are just many example of right that I could give of the resilience and determination of people of Colchester during those dark times. The presence of Armed dark times. The presence of Armed Forces and our community today and veterans of course is a testament to veterans of course is a testament to our enduring commitment to national security and our readiness to respond to crises both at home and abroad.

Colchester is of course marking VE day and our military history in many ways this week, and over many weeks. This weekend I unveiled a new blue plaque at the main gated entrance to the former cavalry barracks which played a vital part in the First World War which trained and treated England's warhorses. The historic guardhouse of that site has been restored and is a reminder of the centuries long association of the military in Colchester. On Thursday at Colchester town Hall we will raise the vide flag and the Pegasus flag which is the flag of the airborne forces who did so much to help us achieve victory.

We will also gather at Colchester's war memorial with service personnel from 16th are assault Brigade and I would later join the Nepalese community remembering the Gurkha soldier's you contributed so much and continue to contributed so much and continue to make so many sacrifices in the fight make so many sacrifices in the fight for peace today. -- Aerial assault. As we honour the sacrifices made for those who fought for our freedom 80 those who fought for our freedom 80 years ago let's also acknowledge the ongoing contributions made by our present Armed Forces, a commitment to protecting protecting our nation to protecting protecting our nation is as vital today as it was during the Second World War and we renew our commitment to them.

As we heard our commitment to them. As we heard earlier today in an earlier business in this House we must also renew our commitment to ending conflicts around the world. From Ukraine to the Middle East.
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Jon Pearce Portrait Jon Pearce MP (High Peak, Labour)
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to concentrate on my constituency high peaks role in the Second World War. So many of our men and women War. So many of our men and women served their country during the war, sadly far too many made the ultimate sacrifice in defeating fascism. Whilst our communities were spared Whilst our communities were spared much of the horrendous bombing that affected large areas like London, there were some notable exceptions. It was one July evening in 1942 when the Luftwaffe found themselves the Luftwaffe found themselves flying over.

After failing to find flying over. After failing to find the large propeller factory in Lostock because of low cloud cover the high-speed bombers wreaked Abbott onto High Peak villages full Abbott onto High Peak villages full stop one dropping its bombs on tour Vale and the other dropping two bombs near swizzle is sweet factory. bombs near swizzle is sweet factory. But those bombs landed then the world may never have known love world may never have known love parts -- hearts and the many childhood would have been the poorer childhood would have been the poorer for it to the good news is that swizzle is surviving and thriving today.

Skipping ahead to 1943 more planes were flying over the High Peak but this time it was the 617 Squadron of the RAF to sing low- level flying needed for operation chastise, more commonly known as the dambusters. The dambusters were vital in convincing people that the allies were winning the war against Nazism and it was the rolling hills of the High Peak that helped the brave RAF personnel to pull it off. In this time of celebration and reflection we remember the strength and bravery the people who fought to keep our country free during the Second World War and we must never lie -- loose sight of the sacrifice that people make when they join our Armed Forces today.

My own uncle served in the Second World War, Ronald PS. He fought bravely on the Italian campaign, he survived but the war took its toll on him. During a time when was little understood and little done for those suffering from trauma and mental health issues. That is why I warmly welcome this government announcement of valour, the UK wide veteran support service which will work with health employment and housing charities and is backed by one of the largest ever government funding commitments for veterans.

As we celebrate the incredible achievements of the greatest generation we cannot hide from the fact that we live today in an increasingly unstable world with anti-Semitism once again on the rise and a war on European soil because of a tyrant's invasion of a neighbouring country may our generation have the fortitude and resilience of the generation we

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celebrate today. Victory in Europe Day in 1945 was a moment of national rejoicing but it was also a moment when Britain and the world started count the cost of war, the human catastrophe of of war, the human catastrophe of totalitarianism. Yet you would be hard-pressed to find anyone in the country who would say the price was too high and I think we have heard that today in the moving recitations from the Member for New Forest East. That greatest generation fought for That greatest generation fought for our country and freedom but they
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Chris McDonald Portrait Chris McDonald MP (Stockton North, Labour)
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our country and freedom but they fought for British values of democracy and the rule of law, in 1941 it is estimated there were only 11 functioning democracies in the world. Half of these could trace their genesis back to this mother of parliaments. It's no exaggeration to say that democracy is Britain's greatest gift to the world. It is our duty to defend that gift both at home and abroad, it's wire was pleased to see soldiers from Ukraine marching in the vide parade this week.

I war leaders in 1945 you that winning the war was only the first step in winning the peace, they started immediately to set up a series of international organisations, the I did nations, the European Council, the NATO, the European coal and steel community was the together they protected democracy freedom and human rights of the last 80 years, the spread of democracy across the globe has been a great success. But we mustn't be complacent. Rights to democracy are real and not all come from hostile nations.

Some arise from conditions in our own country. Our society Inequality greater than at any time since the 1930s in similar circumstances saw fascism sweep across Europe. This is not a time for hands of government, it's a time for intervention. Just as in the aftermath of the Second World War the Attlee government promised good jobs, high-quality homes, universal healthcare and educational opportunity for all so the mission for this government is to deliver that commitment anew to the British people. In this 80th anniversary of VE Day we have so much to be proud And in this I am in complete accordance with the Member for Ayrshire and Perthshire glands in that we need to take heed to protect, preserve and defend that precious gift of democracy, one at such a great cost and selflessly bequeath to us by the wartime generation.

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deeds of democracy. This week events are being held
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Sam Rushworth Portrait Sam Rushworth MP (Bishop Auckland, Labour)
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across Bishop Auckland constituency celebrating 80 years of peace in Europe which followed a war so terrible that we still mark the years since. I vividly remember celebrating the 50th vide 30 years ago in my last year in primary school -- primary school are remember dressing up as a evacuee singing Vera Lynn songs and hanging up Union Jack bunting some of that resilient war generation was still sprightly enough to kick a football or at least it and share that memories with us but with each passing year age has wearied them in fewer and fewer still with us.

Weeks like this are important that we ever forget that generation who stood firm against tyranny, he crossed land sea and sky to secure the freedoms we enjoy today stop Bishop Auckland played its role sending young men off to war, caring for evacuees and digging for victory. Victory in Europe cost the best blood of the 20th century. Those who survived not only won the war but went on to win the peace and build modern Britain, including the welfare state and the National Health Service we are that generation a debt we will never be able to repay.

My grandad was just 19 when with the 12th Yorkshire Battalion he parachuted into Renville in the early hours of the He never really spoke of what he saw in the final months of his life but he carried it with him quietly. He recalls a time they sat to watch a film the longest day when a scene when the officer writes the -- says the words come on man, he said they weren't meant they were boys. But he raised two sons as a single father and did his part to build a better world.

It would have been amazed to have a grandson serving in this place. The victory won in Europe 80 years ago this week was not a victory for Britain and France Germany. But of liberal democracy over fascism and racism. It was a victory for the whole of Europe. Europe is the best example of lasting peace and reconciliation the party's ever seen. We always see ourselves as friends and allies and never surrender to those who want to divide us. Across the world in Ukraine, Gaza, Sudan and beyond we see conflict once again robbing children of their homes and families of their future.

And here in Europe and Russia's invasion of Ukraine has shattered assumptions peace in our continent was secure. It was not. It must be defended, peace not only with arms but with unity across Europe with moral clarity and political courage to stand up to international law and human rights. Remembrance is not nostalgia, it is responsibility. If we are to honour a generation that for fries we must lighten our time for the piece that they gave us.

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Born in 1958, my childhood was surrounded by people who fought in World War II. But as a child it all World War II. But as a child it all seemed so long ago. My father was an RAF doctor serving in the Middle RAF doctor serving in the Middle East and in East Anglia and the fatality rate of the aircrews was fatality rate of the aircrews was quite appalling, not least because of all those killed as the planes crashed. I remember stories my dad told us of crawling into stricken planes to extract winded pilots.

Like many who fought in the war, he Like many who fought in the war, he spoke about it only in his greatest old age. But now that I have old age. But now that I have grandchildren of my own, it no longer seems so long ago. What tricks time and memory play on all tricks time and memory play on all tricks time and memory play on all of us. Suffolk was in the front line if any the country, however feels key to the liberation of Europe, the brave men of the U.S.

Air Force flue brave men of the U.S. Air Force flue bombing raids from Ruffin deep into Europe. And the incredible fighter Europe. And the incredible fighter and double amputee Douglas flew from the RAF base. Vanishingly few of this generation are among us now but I was delighted to send congratulations to one of them, Jimmy Grant from Stowmarket on his 100th birthday last year. He signed up to the Royal Marines 1943, served until 1946, present at the day, firing for the troops at cold beaches.

And I salute his service. We must also never forget the thousands of extraordinary ordinary citizens who made this contribution to the people's war for freedom. In Suffolk we received thousands of volunteers for the women's land Army, from all over the country to milk cows, pool potatoes, drive
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Peter Prinsley Portrait Peter Prinsley MP (Bury St Edmunds and Stowmarket, Labour)
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tractors. They were determined and indomitable and alongside the home indomitable and alongside the home guard and the ARP wardens made a huge contribution to our victory. huge contribution to our victory. Now many in this House will find it quite unbelievable that war has quite unbelievable that war has returned to Europe. As we speak rockets and drones are being flung at cities and civilians hiding in at cities and civilians hiding in area shelters. Those who start wars do not respect the lessons of history, which is the great songwriter said, simply blowing in the wind.

They must not be allowed to win. I therefore welcome the government's choice to increase government's choice to increase defence spending and deplored the commitment to go further. 2.5% is commitment to go further. 2.5% is really not enough. 80 years ago, Mr Churchill addressed the Commons from the other place, this chamber having the other place, this chamber having been hollowed out by a direct strike. He reminded us the Britons were the first draw the sword were the first draw the sword against tyranny. We cannot forget that.

It is has now fallen to us to that. It is has now fallen to us to safeguard the piece which is generation one. And we must put aside our political differences.

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Thank you. 80 years ago celebrations broke out across the country that was spontaneous and country that was spontaneous and joyful and often very noisy but there was a group of people who really weren't talking loudly about really weren't talking loudly about the work they'd done during the war. the work they'd done during the war. A group of those people were based in Leighton Buzzard in a place called q. Central. It was a secret communications hub and at its height communications hub and at its height thereby the 2,000 people working there, put only women, running what
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Alex Mayer Portrait Alex Mayer MP (Dunstable and Leighton Buzzard, Labour)
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there, put only women, running what was the largest telephone exchange in the entire world. And there are many people in the constituency and further afield as well who think that this is a contribution that more people need to find out about. Lots of people know about the neighbouring secret worker Bletchley, but Leighton Buzzard's contribution has I think for too long not been recognised. So I'm really proud of the work of the local historian called Paul Brown who has been bringing that secret work to the public attention, and am also proud that this Thursday I will be able to go along to Leighton

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Buzzard... I will give way. I thank her for her remarkable speech remembering those who contributed our war effort. She join me in remembering all those who fought and fell from across my fought and fell from across my Penistone & Stocksbridge constituency and bubble to but in particular those who were working at Samuel Oxbridge steelworks for

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Samuel Oxbridge steelworks for munitions in order to ensure... I thank her for her contribution and absolutely think that everyone's contributions to the war effort were really vital to ensure that we want victory and peace. So as I was victory and peace. So as I was saying, this Thursday I will be at Leighton Buzzard War Memorial with local people laying a wreath in local people laying a wreath in memory of those people who served at q. Central because I really think q.

Central because I really think it's vital that we make sure that those people whose wartime service was carried out in the shadows is was carried out in the shadows is

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now brought into the light. As I reflect on VE Day and the celebration of victory over fascism in Europe, the thing that strikes me is that the war effort was one of
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Lizzi Collinge Portrait Lizzi Collinge MP (Morecambe and Lunesdale, Labour)
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Richard who when I met him last year was 100 years young. He was one of the men that liberated a the men that liberated a concentration camp. To sit with someone who had known that horror first hand truly was a privilege. And it really was a privilege to pass on my personal thanks from a survivor's family. My honourable survivor's family. My honourable friend Krish had a Polish grandma. friend Krish had a Polish grandma. She survived Belsen. After her liberation she came to Britain and settled here.

And as the rest as settled here. And as the rest as they say is history. Except it's not just history is it? It's not something we can bring out to look something we can bring out to look on special occasions and congratulate ourselves on beating congratulate ourselves on beating fascism before putting it away for the next anniversary. Because they didn't start with the camps did it? didn't start with the camps did it? It never does. No, it was more It never does.

No, it was more insidious than that. It was a slow and constant poisoning of minds. By people intent only on power. It was a setting up of different groups as scapegoats. It was the use of pseudoscience to backup an ideology of racism and eugenics, the use of propaganda to turn people into caricatures. The use of the press to create a narrative of blame. It was the turning of ordinary people on their neighbours, the taking of the propensity of humans to group together and turning it into a sinister tribalism.

Because while at the difficult solutions to complex problems when you can simply blame that group over there? The groups that many people have been taught over many years to fear and hate. In the 20s and 30s, it was the Jews. The gypsies, the gays, the disabled. It was the intellectuals and the trade unionists. It was anyone who challenged that narrative of hate. So who is it today? Because fascism didn't start with the camps. And the ideas underpinning fascism are not artefacts of history.

So I end with a plea. We do not treat fascism and tyranny as an historical artefact, that we remember they are a living possibility. Even now, even here. The overthrow of fascism isn't a bauble to add once a year. Rather it's a reminder we should never let it get that far ever again, that we must be on our guard and we should never let it flourish.

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Luke Myer's. Today we remember the extraordinary courage, sacrifice and service that brought about Victory service that brought about Victory in Europe Day 80 years ago. And it's been a privilege to join VE Day commemorations right across my constituency. Proud of my constituency for organising so many events. In our towns and villages we render all those who answered that call of service, many of whom would call of service, many of whom would never return. Think of service men like Stan Collis, a local lad from Middlesbrough who and the only Victoria Cross awarded on the day that his sheer bravery in Normandy.

that his sheer bravery in Normandy. We remember servicemen like Harry, future mayor who fought in North Africa and on the spine of Italy. Africa and on the spine of Italy. And we remember the air men, the Mariners, the Green Howards and all Mariners, the Green Howards and all others who lay down their lives for freedom. We also pay tribute to all freedom. We also pay tribute to all those who -- played their part on
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event in the UK. And it was very fitting tribute to our heroes. It's a very emotional evening, great from the get go when the band kicked off with Glenn Miller. My Papa John Sullivan was a pianist in a big band and they plumber from a small village north of Glasgow he was plucked from that village and set to serve with the RAF in Burma. Thousands of miners from his home probably never left the UK, might not have even left Scotland before, not knowing when or if they would return home, but he did return home, return home, but he did return home, and for that I'm grateful.

I turned my other grandfather Jimmy Campbell who served as a miner all his days, again making an essential contribution to the war in a dangerous role like so many others in those days. For example the munition is, the women who worked in the munitions factory, exposed to hazardous toxins day in day out. And on 5 February 1943, one of those women went to work and never returned home due to an explosion. Thanks to the work of local historian Catherine Welch, a line has been shown on the women once again and efforts are under way to remember their service.

And these examples speak to the service of generation. Ordinary people who did extraordinary things in the name of service and democracy. We owe them a debt of gratitude. Cannot repay it but we must honour the legacy by standing united and resolute in the

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defence of democracy today. We did get everyone in. I come to the Frontbench and the shadow Secretary of State.

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Secretary of State. Is a pleasure and privilege to wind up such an excellent debate and I pay tribute to all the contribution we've heard today as we in Parliament follow the public in Parliament follow the public yesterday and taking our turn to mark the 80th anniversary VE Day are one of the most momentous days in our country's history. It was the triumph of freedom over tyranny in triumph of freedom over tyranny in Europe. We must be forever grateful to all those who served to deliver the victory, not least as the great poignancy of this year's anniversary has come from the fading of our living link to those who were actually there at the time.

But that link still remains and it was link still remains and it was particular powerful moment yesterday at the start of VE Day proceedings in Parliament Square when World War
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James Cartlidge Portrait James Cartlidge MP (South Suffolk, Conservative)
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in Parliament Square when World War II RAF veteran Alan Kenneth turning 101 later this month formally gives the military procession it sendoff, holding the torch of peace. Living link often through family really link often through family really I know how much is lifelong passion for the Armed Forces stems from his father's service with the Royal Navy on the day, through most of my life I had a reminder of the war every single day because my late mother was called Faith precisely because 1941, when our eventual victory was far from certain.

Although my mother regarded herself as English she was born in Haverfordwest in Wales because her dad, my late grandfather, was a civil engineer who in wartime switched from building railways to running naval munitions family -- factory in Wales will stop maybe I have defence procurement in the blood, who knows. Of course as many have stressed it's important to remember the war did not finish on the day and that eight years ago some of the most bitter fighting would still come in the Pacific theatre, so I joined my honourable friend for Keighley and Oakley in looking forward to celebrating VJ Day in August.

There are many fine speeches, a particular theme is the contribution of so many nations fighting alongside us under our command. The honourable lady for Upper Bann stressed the role of the union particularly strong from Northern Ireland, the gentleman for Newcastle-under-Lyme and Cheltenham stressed the role of the Commonwealth and the honourable gentleman for Ilford South specifically the role of the Indian Armed Forces, ironic given what is happening as we speak in terms of India and Pakistan and of course they fought so bravely in World War II at Monte Cassino in particular.

The honourable member for Coatbridge and Bellshill and Cowdenbeath and Kirkcaldy stressed the presence of Polish forces in their constituencies including those involved at market Garden in that epic battle. The honourable lady Fall distraught stressed involvement in of Canadian troops, another for the free French you he hosted his constituency in the honourable lady for Colchester reminded us of the historic contribution of the Nepalese community which continues to this day with the incredible contribution of the Gurkha Regiment. It was a particular privilege to hear from those colleagues who have served in the Armed Forces, the honourable and gallant gentlemen spoke about the importance of his experience visiting a Ukrainian defence company, I also had that experience recently and it's a real learning lesson and incredibly inspiring to see.

My honourable friend for Exmouth and Exeter East spoke movingly of his grandfather his incredible contribution included Deedes, operation Varsity and of course the traumatic experience of liberating concentration camps. I hope this inspired him to his own distinguished career in the Marines. I honourable friend hold Huntington in next and speech stressed the crucial role of RAF bases. We had all the pomp and so on The Mall but of course the real story of the day celebrations as in communities up and down the country and a number of colleagues spoke about community celebrations including the honourable lady for mid Sussex, the honourable lady for Monmouthshire and the honourable gentleman from Bishop Auckland and Bexleyheath & Crayford.

The honourable gentleman for Ashford made a fascinating speech reminding us of the important role of RAF Hawkins in terms of intercepting the flying bombs as they were called and, ironically of course we now call about the drones flying over Ukraine and the menace that they are today. A number of colleagues spoke about the important role of women especially in wartime industry, the gentleman from Brecon and come tower, the honourable lady the Cowdenbeath and Kirkcaldy he spoke of the role of her grandmother in the defence industry and a number of colleagues spoke of the contribution of women working on our farms to ensure we had food security during the war including my writable friend for Dom's freeze, my neighbour the honourable gentleman for Bury St Edmunds in a fantastic speech, and the honourable gentleman for Strangford reminding us of the contribution of the women's land Army.

The honourable gentleman for Angus and Perthshire Glens reminded us of what he called the long tail of war and its lasting psychological impact. The honourable lady Finn this morn stressed the important role of RAF which is one of the most enjoyable visits of my time as a Defence Minister. Earlier in the debate chair of the defence select team made an excellent intervention when he said that surely the most important lesson World War II is to always stand up to aggressors. Which is why it's been so important to support Ukraine as they face another European war inflicted without a shred of justification by another aggressive bullying dictator.

I'm incredibly proud of what we did in government to support Ukraine and like the honourable gentleman for Stockton North I was very moved to see the Ukrainian soldiers joining our the day procession yesterday. I hope one day we will get to attend their the day celebration. To conclude it is wonderful that our nation is once again had the chance to play a glorious tribute to that incredible generation the secured victory over tyranny 80 years ago victory over tyranny 80 years ago but we must never forget the lessons from that terrible war, always stand up for democracy and freedom and to do so by backing our Armed Forces and standing strong with our allies against the bullying dictators who threaten us once again.

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Has been a great personal privilege to close this debate today and I'd like to thank my honourable friend for inspiring opening speech. Every member of this House whose contributions so thoroughly to a memorable and important debate. After the guns fell silent in Europe during those historic days of May 1945 a period of enduring peace began between the major global powers that piece was secured by a courageous and undaunted generation of British men and women and has lasted almost 80 years.

This man and women who served in the frontline in the factories down the mines, on the farms or embedded with allies demonstrated the very best of Britain's character, their grit and their fierce resolve carried Britain through the bleakest of times. Two victory. The commemorations we've seen this week our fitting way to pay tribute to the generation and thank them for what they did for our country, and indeed the whole world. As the Minister for Veterans' Affairs people I particularly want to express found gratitude to all serving personnel and veterans taking part this week, from Britain and across the Commonwealth and of course our Ukrainian allies who took part in the parade just yesterday.

Whether joining the many events here in London or across many of our constituencies in personal watching and listening from home, a nation is eternally grateful for your service and the unflagging sacrifice not just a view but of your families who serve as well. I witnessed the cost of conflict firsthand, I stand before the sales not only as a minister but as a military that are in myself. During multiple tours in all corners of the world I've seen the very best of humanity in the form of remarkable courage and, chip under pressure.

I've also seen its darkest aspects. Never wear these two extremes more apparent than during the Second World War. This week we commemorate 80 years since the liberation of Europe and the West from a period of dark and violent tyranny. Remember all who suffered and fought against the unimaginable horrors of war. We also remember them a remarkable British and Allied soldiers who liberated Europe. They witnessed the catastrophic consequences of unchecked authoritarianism that attempted to redraw international boundaries through the use of force.

One wise person once said history doesn't repeat itself, it sure does rhyme. He rose those individuals who rose to the immense challenge of bringing hope to a place where hopelessness had taken root. Remembering the stories and defences and honour and obligation, they remind us of the importance of standing up to dictators and aggressors. As with many things Churchill said it best. It was a victory of the great British nation as a whole as we have heard today to draw the sword against tyranny.

No duties more vital to the government than protecting the security of the British people, even after eight decades without a major world conflict the illegal invasion of Ukraine and the ensuing war for the right to self-determination has reminded us we have no inalienable right to peace. When a lasting peace we must deter the use of force through deft diplomacy and of course strength. That's why this government is working flat out to build a stronger, more robust Armed Forces which values the rewards of service personnel for their courage, of outside contribution to society and their unwavering commitment to defending our nation.

It is why we are making the biggest increase in defence spending since 2010 and is why we are modernising our defence through comprehensive defence review, defence reform and industrial strategy. I would like to respond to some of the points raised during today's debate. I think the honourable friend highlighted a really important point that was won by armies and navies or our forces, they are won by economies, industries and societies. I think that is never more telling than in Ukraine itself where we see a scale of conflict that is incomprehensible in some cases.

In World War II the UK took just under 400,000 killed in action. In Ukraine the Russians have only taken 950,000 casualties. That means by the end of this debate today, the Russians will have taken over 2,000 to 3,000 casualties in one Sigel day. Thousands of drone strikes per day, 16,000 artillery rounds today, dozens of tanks destroyed. Woe beside any democracy or individual that takes our peace and our democratic system for granted. I like to thank the honourable member for Mid Sussex to pay tribute to the photographic unit, and I do believe the national monument is proceeding through the planning place the planning procedures as we speak.

The monument to Dame Vera Lynn as well we are almost there and gets my full support as we move forward. As this debate draws to a close I like to thank all members once again for their contributions. The simple fact that it is society that when once that it is society that when once was entitled amazing stories across all of our constituencies with the integral parts whether it be in industry, farmers, the mines have contributed to the war effort is truly remarkable.

It's right to recognise that. Also right that we have paused the regular cadence of our political work to recognise the immense scale and sacrifice which led Europe to freedom out of the darkness of violence and tyranny. That generation about countrymen and women gave their lives so we might live freely they leave us in the next generation with a reminder that freedom is not free. To be resilient during difficult times and to always remember because the nation that forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten.

In my search for information how best to close this debate I stumbled across a quote which captures perhaps the essence of British spirit to fight and defend, it was by an unknown American soldier. It goes along these lines. Those Brits are strange old race. They show affection by abusing each other and will think nothing of casually stopping in the middle of a firefight to brew up and make a drink. I would rather have one British squaddie on the side than entire battalion of spats and as.

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Position Graeme Downie. I rise to present a petition regarding high fuel prices for people and businesses in people and businesses in Dunfermline. Prices and and firm Scotland's historic capital city as much as 6p per litre higher than the closest town 10 miles away for this cartel around is damaging small businesses and unnecessarily increasing the cost of people getting to work. Whether that's the school run or the taxi service as well as young people get into college or training places will stop it also increasing carbon emissions as a result of drivers travelling outside the city cheaper fuel.

This petition is signed by my constituents and backs up what by over 600 people who have signed an online petition relating to the same The petitioners therefore requested the House of Commons urge the government to instruct the Competition and Markets Authority to investigate higher petrol prices and permanent compared to the immediate area and take action to address this will ensure petrol prices are fair and competitive in Scotland's historic capital and newest city. Dunfermline.
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Yasmin Qureshi Portrait Yasmin Qureshi MP (Bolton South and Walkden, Labour)
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With your indulgence may I just make to comments and observations make to comments and observations about the debate we just had. It has been an absolute profound debate been an absolute profound debate where colleagues have spoken about some of their own personal some of their own personal experiences, their family members, I think it is fitting that we have this debate as a way of recognising this debate as a way of recognising the sacrifices that people made millions and millions of our Armed Forces made.

I think that expression, they shall grow old, they shall grow not old as we are left to grow old, age shall not left to grow old, age shall not weary them years condemned, after the going down of the sun and in the the going down of the sun and in the morning we will remember them. Celebration in the debate today as a way of remembering them. I want to way of remembering them. I want to take a couple of things, one of them which the Minister spoke about earlier which is about standing up earlier which is about standing up for what is right.

Another honourable member for Morecambe Lonsdale talked about the fact that things don't happen in isolation, she talked about how the Second World War had been demonisation and other ring of communities which then led to the catastrophe that And she said things are still happening, and I want to mention about the fact I am very proud to show Muslim of Pakistani, born in Pakistan. But at this moment Pakistanis and Muslims are being demonised by many people, not just the mainstream media, but senior politicians who should know better than to cause division.

So I just want to remind the House, although it was alluded early in the debate, about the contribution of the Commonwealth in fighting the Second World War. My uncle had a Kings commission in the British Army at the time, and other members of my family fought for the British Army. But in addition to that, 5.5 million Muslims across the world died fighting... Sorry, 5.5 million were taking part in the war. And many of them died, and in particular in the Indian army there were 2.5 million people from the Indian army, of them one million were Muslims.

And many of them now would be what's called Pakistani. And I think it's important that these are remembered when we are looking at history and contributions made by many people. And I will be honest with you, at this moment in time, where the discourse is happening in our country of demonising migrants and others, I'm actually scared. And I do see the rise of fascism happening, and that's exactly what happened in the Second World War. Now I know the majority of the people in this country are brilliant, wise, sensible.

And I know they will not let these things happen. But I think it is timely that we have discussions like today's debate so we can remind all of us as to the pitfalls that exist. And finally, you know that like myself you were in the Armed Forces scheme. And after the Royal Navy and the air force and I've met some of our current army personnel and Air Force and I have to pay a big tribute to them for the wonderful work they do in protecting our country, and I respect and cherish and my them, and I think as much as we can do to help our armed services and veterans as well, it's the least we could do fair the sacrifice they made to our country.

Now coming back to the adjournment debates itself, I know this might have caused people some confusion as to what on earth does this mean, protection of young signage as a creative industry. Well, today is an opportunity for me to speak on an issue that may seem niche at first glance. But actually speaks to broader thoughts about how the way we value heritage, craftsmanship and the lifeblood of our creative economy. I rise to speak in support of the campaign to protect the heritage craft of neon sign making, a uniquely British tradition and one that is now at tradition and one that is now at risk.

Neon was discovered here in the United Kingdom in 1898 and after its discovery, so William Ramsay and Morris Travers demonstrated that passing electricity through a gas you could make it glow, paving the way for the iconic neon signs we've seen the world over from Piccadilly Circus to Times Square. In my constituency, we are proud to be home to neon's creation, a small but dedicated business led by Catherine and Tony Spink. Since 2005 I have been handcrafting authentic neon signs, using techniques that date back over a century.

They do not mass-produce, do not cut corners,

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they are Artisans in the truest sense of the word. I support everything she is saying. I've commissioned piece of saying. I've commissioned piece of neon artwork from a local artwork in Teessider number of years ago. Would Teessider number of years ago. Would you agree with me that neon is as valid a medium of expression as any other artistic endeavour?

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other artistic endeavour? Absolutely. And I will come in to talk about the amount of work and experience they need to be doing experience they need to be doing this. So I recently visited Tony and Catherine at their studio and was transported to a medical -- magical work of amazing colours, seeing the work of amazing colours, seeing the stunning outbreak they produce and being given a demonstration to bend being given a demonstration to bend glass to create the signs. And I managed to do it as well.

What was managed to do it as well. What was truly fascinating, this proud craft is under threat now because no longer appreciate this beauty but because it's been quietly and insidiously eroded by misleading marketing and unfair competition marketing and unfair competition from the mass produced LED imitation products. Often incorrectly and deliberately labelled as neon signs. Let me be clear, it's not made of glass and filled with gas, it is not

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a neon sign. The honourable lady has put forward an argument for the creative forward an argument for the creative industry will stop at the same time it can't be ignored what the neon it can't be ignored what the neon sign market has created. I always do my studies before coming to the my studies before coming to the chamber, and doing interventions for chamber, and doing interventions for any of the adjournment debates. But the neon sign market rose by 7.5% annually between 2021, making some annually between 2021, making some three point, making some £3.1 three point, making some £3.1 billion.

Is there not a way of working with the neon sign market and the creative sector together to the advantage of all?

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I'm going to touch on a few more things. The authentic neon signs are handcrafted from glass tubes that are heated, bent and shaped by hand, are heated, bent and shaped by hand, then filled with inert gases like neon or Oregon. This meticulous and time-consuming process requiring years of training dexterity and experience. There are only 27 full- time neon class benders in the United Kingdom, down from thousands over decades. The problem we face is not just commercial.

It's cultural. It's about the loss of craft that is as British as Sheffield cutlery. Or tweet, Harris Tweed. We believe neon signs deserves formal legal protection for a certification mark, a defiant British standard or ideally through the introduction of neon sign protection act. This is not an antitechnology argument. LED signage has its place. It's cheap, mass produced and useful in many applications. But we need... To allow business to market LED signs as neon is misleading consumers, harming Artisan and erasing our heritage.

Let me illustrate how this is affecting real businesses. Neon creations have seen a sharp drop in demand because customers are being told by large retailers that 30 LED signs are neon signs. These products may look superficially similar but they are of entirely different construction, quality and artistry. When customers receive them, they discover they are not authentic. Then they go back to businesses like Neil creations not to buy but ask for repairs of something that isn't actually neon. Catherine and Tony have faced online harassment, threats of legal action, and have had their blocked from social media for merely correcting the record.

This is what happens. Let's consider the facts, neon is safe, despite common misconception, neon signs are powered by low amperage and do not get dangerously hot. The gases use neon and arrogant baronet and naturally occurring in our atmosphere. Neon is efficient. A typical neon sign for business use costs around 20p per day to run barely more than LED and far less them people assume. It's sustainable because unlike plastic heavy lead product, neon signs are made of glass and are fully recyclable.

And perhaps most importantly, they last much longer. They have a lifespan of at least 10 years. Outpacing the LED alternatives. So why are we allowing this confusion to persist? Why are we allowing misleading labels? The British Sign and Graphics Association, the heritage craft Association, Federation of Small Businesses and the Greater Manchester commerce all support a stronger protection for the neon craftsmanship will stop this isn't just about one constituency or one business, this is about defending a principle that authenticity masters and heritage craft should be recognised, not undermined by mass production.

We must also speak to consumer transparency. It should not be a step for retailers large or small to market product as neon, when it contains no glass, gas or craftsmanship. Just as we have rightly challenged fake olive oils, or falsely labelled me, we must apply the same standard. Just as Harris Tweed is protected by law, to ensure that only fabric made in the Hebrides can bear that name, we propose a similar model for neon signs. This could take the form of a certification mark that can only be applied to a genuine class neon product.

A former British standard for neon signs develop with ESI and the SJ input and maybe a Private Member's Bill or Bill neon signs protection act that entrance legal definition of what the term neon means. These measures would not be burdensome and will not create redtape dustup it will be simply a way of telling the truth in advertising and providing a very good protection for a very small but significant industry and let's not forget the cultural value of neon, is a signage and an art.

It invokes memories of cinemas, diners and city skylines, a symbol of expression and identity, to lose it would be to lose the vibrant British past. They are trying to pass down the skills for the next generation, but they can't because there is not enough work to justify training new class benders. As of now there are no full-time neon trainees in the whole of the United Kingdom. If we don't act, the pipeline will close forever. And that's why I'm here to advocate for this and for small businesses who are refusing to give up on this craft.

And have written to this active state urging the government to support clear definitions of protections of neon signs. I know the all-party parliamentary group on craft is supporting this campaign and looking into next steps. But more needs to be done. So today I ask will be standby and watch the lights go out on one of Britain's most unique and visually iconic crafts? Or will we ensure that when someone buys a neon sign in this country, they are about buying the real thing.

It's not just about glowing tubes of gas commits about truth, heritage and people behind it. The polite Tony and Catherine. People whose livelihood depends on our honesty in the market unfairness in the law. Let as give them the protection. Letters like the way for the future of British neon. And letters ensure that the word neon once again stands for authenticity, artistry, and

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Absently fascinating. I look forward to the response. Minister. I'm sure you look forward to every response from a government every response from a government minister. And I note that my honourable friend ended with letters like the way for the future of British neon. And I am grateful to my honourable friend for securing this important debate, and consistent with your approach, I'm grateful for her thoughtful and rather illuminating if you will forgive the pun, speech. I didn't actually write that.

Somebody in my department wrote that, to whom I am enormously grateful. No, I'm not sacking them. You can't offer civil servants to be sacked from the chair. Otherwise people will call for you to be sacked. As the Jamaican reggae artist Kennesaw and Bob Marley have lower sized, life is 1 Big Rd with lots of signs. This debate has shone a light not just neon signage itself but on the wider regression of how we protect the often overlooked corners of our creative economy and let's be absolutely clear, as you said neon is not simply about advertising and not just a relic of a bygone era, it is artistry, craftsmanship.

It's a part of our living heritage, part of the living texture of our urban and rural landscapes and iON remember for a while there was a neon sign as you enter the Rhondda which used to say, two can dine for 199, fine dining. I think it slightly out of date that one. From Glasgow to Blackpool to the corner pub to the West End theatre marquee, there is neon. Behind each flicker of neon gas is a maker, a designer, a glass bender and an engineer of lime.

These are not just tradespeople but creative professionals sustaining a skill set, passed down through generations and there are many many artists in the UK and across the world who have taken advantage of this great British invention. It was only about 1912 that are passed through to the United States and became part of their advertising It's an essential armed form my art form, think of many of Tracey Emin's great works was fantastic to feel beautiful again is a beautiful piece of her work, or apologies for this mode don't get overexcited, kiss me kiss me cover my body and love, another of Tracey Emin's great works.

A livable artist Sheila, RE Singh Berman's work often uses neon, I went to an extraordinary wonderful exhibition at the Imperial War Museum North of hers which had a large drawing on her family's tradition of running a shop and you may recall a few years ago she covered Tate Britain during the winter period with lots of different neon signs and for that matter you could go online, this is my advertising for the Tate, you could go online and buy one of her artworks or £350.

I think it is at Tate modern there is Martin Creed work don't worry, difficult not to sing don't marry -- worry isn't it. A few years ago at Tate Britain the Welsh artist Carolyn Evans did an extraordinary piece which I remember because it was such a contrast with the galleries in which it was which was to kilometres of neon light. That was back in 2017. The creative and has a whole contribute £124 billion per year to the UK economy and neon as a niche but important part of that ecosystem has a dual role both in commerce and in our culture.

Of course advertising is one of our key exports in the UK and a very important part of our creative industry as well. Just think of the Piccadilly Circus signs, John -- God's own junkyard or the glow of fish and chip shop on a rainy Tuesday night. These aren't just signs they are signifiers of place, of character, of British eccentricity. They are things that imprint themselves in our memory as part of our, part of what we think of as our own hometown.

I hear the And greater support, absolutely well-made point. Whether through planning protections, trademarking or cultural preservation funding. Under exist in legislation and guidance there are provisions in place to protect the unique aspects of our environment including street furniture and signage, indeed the entrance range of the Walthamstow Stadium with its fabulous neon sign is greatly listed. Anyone can recommend a building, a site, monument, designated landscape, battlefield or indeed a sign for inclusion on the National Heritage list for England, so long as they meet the eligibility requirements and I would encourage people to do that.

Apologies again for this, allow me to cast a light upon my department work on living heritage. I encourage young crafters to make a submission to the inventory's of living heritage in the UK when we open the call for submissions later this year following our incorporation of the convention last year. This is a fantastic opportunity for the neon craft community to advocate for their craft, raise awareness and part of a wider conversation on living heritage. Let me also address the point made by my honourable friend, the point of sustainability.

She is quite right that some people have incorrectly expressed concern about energy use in relation to neon but modern neon is far more efficient than its reputation suggests. When maintained it outlasts LEDs, it is recyclable and in some cases even repairable. On the matter of consumer transparency and the use of the term neon I fully understand the concern that clearer definitions and protections could help prevent confusion for consumers and help serve the value of handcrafted neon signage. You only have to go online for two or three minutes to find lots of different supposedly neon signs being advertised relatively cheaply which are no more neon than fly in the air.

Sometimes they are described as LED neon signs which is a contradiction in terms. So I fully take on board the point made by my honourable friend. I thank her for bringing this to our attention and as we engage with departments across Whitehall on their trademark policy development this isn't solely a matter of the Department for Culture, Media and Sport. Protecting neon is not about nostalgia, it is about supporting livelihoods, unlocking tourism and giving our public spaces character at a time when homogenisation threatens to reduce the character and unique identity of everything from our skylines to our high streets.

As we draw this debate to a close let me say this. The government hears the case that is made for neon signage, not as a gimmick or indulgence but as an essential flickering thread in the tapestry of British creativity. Here the concern from artists, heritage bodies and communities you want to see colour identity and local pride preserved, we are committed to working with industry, local government and the wider public to explore how best to secure the future of this unique form of creative expression.

On this we will not let the lights go out. As the Greek born American neon artist once said, I saw Times Square with its lights and letters and I realised it was as beautiful and as difficult to do as Japanese calligraphy. We should never let go of such artistry

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